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And now you've devolved from avoiding the issue right down to not even making sense.

Honestly this thread did get me thinking, and I'll probably through up a post about it in the near future. I don't expect it to amount to anything of course, but the alternative is remaining silent.


For now, I will just say that dating sites do it all the time.
Your thinking a little too linear in terms of check A,B,C,D

Simply saying said thing does not make said thing true.
Also: no not really about the dating site thing, at least not all of them anyway.

And I'd love to see anyone point out a single thing that the current CSM has done that'll be severely detrimental to the game as a whole.

Right im hoping that i have got my point accross without aggro, hey we arnt actually shootinging each other here are we?

I think that most of the concerns are that there seems to be a PERCEPTION that there is somthing nafarious going on, which in my naive noob way i belive to be untrue.
However i think, if i may stray off topic for the moment, that this may be the main problem. We have had a summer of rage, apparently, followed by incarna getting put on the back burner, lots of people being somwhat partisan and then the goons started their tornado or terror (which is very cool and makes me smile, even if i am a potential victim of it/making money off it). I think that with CCP giving into the playerbase at the same time as the goon campain happening has given the impression that the mittani has finally got spies into CCP. Now from what i understand of the history of CCP and corruption is that they are very cocious of it and negative press associated with it since the alleged BoB debarcal. I very much dobt that mittens would get away with anything, he is outspoken and i think in this case a victim of his own mythos.
This is what happens when a player is pecived to have meta power, even if wileded for a percived good.

So as a new player whi is in high sec, although not a carebear (i got told this, so it must be true.) I trust Mittens to do his CSM job correctly and without predjudice and i trust him in game with nothing as he is dodgy IN GAME.

So what concerns do we have left, well from my new player perspective, one hell of a lot. We have two games here and both sides of the game seem to hate each other. Null and empire. Now i am lucky to have 5 year vet friends who have done the null sec thing, so have heard both sides. You know what if you intergrate the game so empire and null have to look to eachother for resources and infrastructure, guess what you'd have a better game, plus piracy, diplomacy and player interactions would be a hell of alot more interesting, plus i think that with travel becoming more prevelent between the two you might get small engagements, casue as a new player i have heard nothing about blob warefare i want to try! (To be fair as i have posted elswhere my PVP skills are weak and i assplode alot).

Things i do have an issue with is that since satrting play i have heard nothing but bad things about new players. We apparently are a wate of space and are an iritation to 'real players'. High sec is for loosers that cant play eve properley..... Um i just started and im finding my feet, i am luck y to have veteren friends who have shown the ropes and intend to move to lowsec once i feel my skills are competative and i can fit a HAC properley, a lot of new players arent lucky and its attitudes like this that leads to the hate.

If the CSM was lead by miners and the majority of players had asked for suicide gankers to be fixed (i know this isnt true but play along) I think the minority of PVPers (this is a fantasy rmember) would be up in arms about the abuses of the miner centric CSM and calling for resignations.

What i want as a new player is a CSM that will represent all the players and thinks what would be cool for everyone, So if Mittens (who isnt the only member, but is the loudest) is going to do that im cool with that, i think however we all need to take a look at how we represent ourselves and how we address each other in the forums, as it will have a larger effect. We need to cool off a little and really think is there corruption in our pew pew spaceship game, CCP may need to talk to us a bit more, and maybe the CSM needs to look at away of making sure everyone is clear of the distinction between character and player (maybe use real names for CSM duties?)

Oh and Mittani (in your CSM role) could you please make insurance payout for criminal activities a no no, it makes sense and makes sucide ganking a calculated risk for reward rather than wahoooo free money. I thik that that is a more EVE kinda thing.



*Sorry if thats abit of a ramble, but i kinda do that when i think about stuff*

"I've run out of ways to rephrase my lame arguments so I'm going to wait for somebody to do it for me."

huh... it got dumped in a corner of the forums where itll die quietly lol

Faction Warfare is a stupid-easy way to get introduced to low sec. A similar mechanic allowing players to get into null, where old and new players alike would be, would be great.

In FW you've got automatic enemies and more importantly, automatic friends. You'll experience piracy as well.

Seriously, wheres the on-ramp to null? Seeing people try to join the goons and get scammed out of 500mil is funny, but unproductive.

You aren't. Just an easy example.

You're missing my point, and reinforcing it: there is no clear path to 0.0 unless you already know your way around.

That is why 0.0 is not going to be populated.