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2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#61 - 2012-02-11 02:05:23 UTC
Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#62 - 2012-02-11 04:28:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jhagiti Tyran
So why are you so butthurt about ToR? Are you mad because you paid for a game you didn't like? Are you mad because other people like it when you did not and now you want to justify your dislike by seeing the game perform poorly? Perhaps its because the game is in competition with a game you like?

Did George Lucas ruin your life with the Phantom Menace? Where you on the SWG team at SOE and got sacked after it closed just before the release of ToR?

I am not trolling I am genuinely interested, the population of the game (or the game itself) doesn't interest me but I am really curious about what's causing you and all of the others to rampage all over the internet spamming about how ToR is dying, dead sucks and all other kinds of hyperbole.

Its almost pathological, the only other thing people seem so fervent about is "WAKE UP SHEEPLE 9/11 WAS INSIDE JOB!!!111!!". I am curious about what is causing it.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#63 - 2012-02-11 15:02:47 UTC
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:
So why are you so butthurt about ToR? Are you mad because you paid for a game you didn't like? Are you mad because other people like it when you did not and now you want to justify your dislike by seeing the game perform poorly? Perhaps its because the game is in competition with a game you like?

Did George Lucas ruin your life with the Phantom Menace? Where you on the SWG team at SOE and got sacked after it closed just before the release of ToR?

I am not trolling I am genuinely interested, the population of the game (or the game itself) doesn't interest me but I am really curious about what's causing you and all of the others to rampage all over the internet spamming about how ToR is dying, dead sucks and all other kinds of hyperbole.

Its almost pathological, the only other thing people seem so fervent about is "WAKE UP SHEEPLE 9/11 WAS INSIDE JOB!!!111!!". I am curious about what is causing it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzDIClx-_pY
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#64 - 2012-02-11 20:30:13 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
http://www.swtor.com/server-status

During peak hours on a Saturday, the busiest day of the week at time of posting this, we have 20 heavy, 174 standard and 22 light servers. Worst weekend since launch, previous was worse than that before and all the way back to end of December last year. No one can argue that it has failed considered time and money invested into a game that not only lacks some sort of growth but is dying in numbers within a month after launch.

Their forums is fun though, people still claiming it is killing WoW and EVE etc as we speak Lol
Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2012-02-11 20:32:51 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:


Quote:
SWTOR cost 300+ million to make


I like how this number keeps going up each time I see it.


THIS. First it was 80 million, then it was 150 million. Next it jumped to 200 million, and now we see it has reached the 300 million mark.

Wow, geniuses. Before long, Bioware will be its own country and have its own government and budget at this rate if it can fork out 300 million dollars to develop games. Imagine how rich they'll be in ten years! They'll be able to join the UN and maybe even become a part of NATO and develop its own military made up of gamers who have never fired a weapon in their life but can play BF3 really well.

GET OFF MY INTERNET.
Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2012-02-11 20:40:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Astenion
OP, I don't see the big deal. Are you that big of a pathetic nerd as to actually be ELITIST about an internet science fiction role playing video game? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!

Forever alone = you
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#67 - 2012-02-11 20:41:01 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
Astenion wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:


Quote:
SWTOR cost 300+ million to make


I like how this number keeps going up each time I see it.


THIS. First it was 80 million, then it was 150 million. Next it jumped to 200 million, and now we see it has reached the 300 million mark.

Wow, geniuses. Before long, Bioware will be its own country and have its own government and budget at this rate if it can fork out 300 million dollars to develop games. Imagine how rich they'll be in ten years! They'll be able to join the UN and maybe even become a part of NATO and develop its own military made up of gamers who have never fired a weapon in their life but can play BF3 really well.

GET OFF MY INTERNET.


http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01/17/analyst-believes-star-wars-the-old-republic-had-a-500-million/

EA refuse to tell us how much it is.

Michael Pachter made up the 80 million USD price tag way back. Most believe it is around 300 million USD, latest analysts think it is infact 500 million USD.

You are welcome to investigate it further. The more I have tried to figure out how much it is and take into consideration how much it costs to create a new studio and offices etc. Not to mention the trailers, 7 years of development and more, 300 million USD seems to make sense and I think that is why it is the most quoted figure. It could be more, I doubt it could be less. Also consider they have to pay insane amounts for the license.


As for the rest of your rant, it makes no sense, you come across as crazy.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#68 - 2012-02-11 20:42:09 UTC
Astenion wrote:
I don't see the big deal. Are you that big of a pathetic nerd as to actually be ELITIST about an internet science fiction role playing video game? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!

Forever alone = you



Calm down, relax and take your medication Roll
Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2012-02-11 20:48:12 UTC
Show me who these analysts are and show me where they're quoted as saying IT'S HALF A BILLION ******* DOLLARS FOR A ******* VIDEO GAME. That's absolute LUNACY. Voice acting just doesn't cost that much and the video game is not even close graphically to other video games of today. IT RUNS ON DX9 FOR DOG'S SAKE! Were they all snorting coke off hookers' **** every morning for 7 years?

Had they made an entire game from start to finish, scrapped it, and then started all over from the very beginning with a completely new graphics engine, new voice actors, cutting edge technology, ten times as big a universe as it is now, and even made a movie to go with it, IT STILL WOULDN'T HAVE COST 500 MILLION DOLLARS. I don't need to investigate further because all this is is a bunch of video game nerds pulling bullshit out of their asses.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#70 - 2012-02-11 20:49:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Micheal Dietrich
You guys heard it here first. Two hundred and sixteen servers filled with players enjoying the game is fail (Keyword!).


Edit: Rough approximation based on server size 3000 we get 430,000 fails playing online currently. Pretty much dead on with my drop off prediction that I had with other users on the Rift forums. It's also 9 times more fail than Eve has online currently.

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Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2012-02-11 20:49:41 UTC
2bhammered wrote:
Astenion wrote:
I don't see the big deal. Are you that big of a pathetic nerd as to actually be ELITIST about an internet science fiction role playing video game? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!

Forever alone = you



Calm down, relax and take your medication Roll


Sorry, but I have zero tolerance for people who say stupid **** simply because it's the first thing that comes to their mind.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#72 - 2012-02-11 20:51:05 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
You guys heard it here first. Two hundred and sixteen servers filled with players enjoying the game is fail (Keyword!).




#64Posted: 2012.02.11 20:30 | Report | Edited by: 2bhammered
http://www.swtor.com/server-status

During peak hours on a Saturday, the busiest day of the week at time of posting this, we have 20 heavy, 174 standard and 22 light servers. Worst weekend since launch, previous was worse than that before and all the way back to end of December last year. No one can argue that it has failed considered time and money invested into a game that not only lacks some sort of growth but is dying in numbers within a month after launch.

Their forums is fun though, people still claiming it is killing WoW and EVE etc as we speak .



You seem to care a lot about this thread Blink



Astenion wrote:
Sorry, but I have zero tolerance for people who say stupid **** simply because it's the first thing that comes to their mind.


You are the only one here saying "stupid ****" simply because it is the first thing that came to your mind. Also you are behaving like a madman for the record, take a deep breath, read my disclaimer and calm the **** down because you are about to have a brain aneurysm if you keep this up.
Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2012-02-11 20:59:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Astenion
Here's what has to be taken into account: it's not WoW, it's Star Wars. SW has millions of fans, this is true, but not every single fan is going to play an MMO of SW. I, for example, never played SWG because it didn't interest me even though I am a huge SW fan.

This is a game that revolves around the SW universe and people who aren't big fans of SW aren't going to fork over money every month to play a video game they probably won't like. You have somehow jumped to the conclusion that it's a world easily accessible to the layperson like WoW was. This just isn't the case.

If anything, SWTOR is closer to Eve due to its niche market. It's not an underground title from a small company, but nonetheless it's only going to appeal to those who enjoy Star Wars. I love Eve because I love the Eve universe as well as the gameplay. SWTOR appeals to fans who feel the same about SW, not the fact it's an MMO. I fail to see how so many have overlooked this fact when it's as plain as day.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#74 - 2012-02-11 20:59:45 UTC
2bhammered wrote:

You seem to care a lot about this thread Blink



I enjoy pointing out fallacies in idiotic logic, it's a side hobby of mine.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#75 - 2012-02-11 21:12:26 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
2bhammered wrote:

You seem to care a lot about this thread Blink



I enjoy pointing out fallacies in idiotic logic, it's a side hobby of mine.



You have done it quite a few times in this thread already, that is, pointing out to everyone that you have "idiotic logic". I have humored you this far by responding to your posts with reason and even a bit of humor, but since all you can do is troll and use contradiction in your arguments in more than one thread I shall stop and leave you for good to rant, cry and ***** all you want all day long.

Just remember, this is a forum with a thread about a video game, not the end of the world Bear
Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2012-02-11 21:14:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Astenion
2bhammered wrote:


You are the only one here saying "stupid ****" simply because it is the first thing that came to your mind. Also you are behaving like a madman for the record, take a deep breath, read my disclaimer and calm the **** down because you are about to have a brain aneurysm if you keep this up.


I think you overestimate your powers of perception, Dr. Shrinkmann. The first thing that came to my mind is that you're an idiot if you actually believe these "analysts" (who, by the way, you still haven't referenced) claim it cost them half a billion dollars to make a video game on par with 2007/8 technology, and you see nothing at all wrong with that statement. This is not madness, this is reality, and you have officially broken with it.

Like I said, zero tolerance for stupid ****. If you don't like my calling you out on it, stop pulling ridiculous crap out of your ass.

"Hey, look at me, I'm an 'analyst'! I'm going to say that the new Mass Effect 3 coming out cost them 900 million dollars because it can't be disproven until they release the actual figures. Not only that, a video gaming website specifically aimed at MMOs is going to quote me saying that...well, not actually QUOTE me. They're going to write a two paragraph report about how an anonymous analyst (ONE analyst) they won't name claims it cost upwards of 500 million dollars. Afterwards, people with overactive imaginations and too much time on their hands are going to run with it and say, "OMG SWTOR COST HALF A BILLION DOLLARS TO MAKE LAWL!!!11!!ONE!"

Yeah, that just about sums it up. Hey look, I can do it too! Did you know I can fly and shoot laser beams out of my nipples? If you can't prove that it's not true then it must be true. Roll
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#77 - 2012-02-11 21:26:08 UTC
Astenion wrote:
2bhammered wrote:


You are the only one here saying "stupid ****" simply because it is the first thing that came to your mind. Also you are behaving like a madman for the record, take a deep breath, read my disclaimer and calm the **** down because you are about to have a brain aneurysm if you keep this up.


I think you overestimate your powers of perception, Dr. Shrinkmann. The first thing that came to my mind is that you're an idiot if you actually believe these "analysts" (who, by the way, you still haven't referenced) claim it cost them half a billion dollars to make a video game on par with 2007/8 technology, and you see nothing at all wrong with that statement. This is not madness, this is reality, and you have officially broken with it.

Like I said, zero tolerance for stupid ****. If you don't like my calling you out on it, stop pulling ridiculous crap out of your ass.



No I don't think I overestimate my power of perception at all. In fact, I would bet money on that you do see a shrink and take meds, that or you are very passionate about SWToR. But I honestly do not care one way or the other, nor will I care enough talk to you anymore. I just wanted you to calm down because the way you write a post it seems like you are slamming your keyboard screaming and throwing a fit, which is not healthy at all. Also not what I want people to do with this thread.

Feel free to rant and cry about my thread until your face is blue though, I wont try to stop you, peaceStraight
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#78 - 2012-02-11 21:26:48 UTC
2bhammered wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
2bhammered wrote:

You seem to care a lot about this thread Blink



I enjoy pointing out fallacies in idiotic logic, it's a side hobby of mine.



You have done it quite a few times in this thread already, that is, pointing out to everyone that you have "idiotic logic". I have humored you this far by responding to your posts with reason and even a bit of humor, but since all you can do is troll and use contradiction in your arguments in more than one thread I shall stop and leave you for good to rant, cry and ***** all you want all day long.

Just remember, this is a forum with a thread about a video game, not the end of the world Bear



Haha the old switch-a-roo of my comment! Forum tactic #33. Oh dear, you completely have me cornered now! What. Ever. Shall. I. Do?


And you are correct, it is a video game and not the end of the world. For the majority of us anyways. But you are hell bent on seeing some supposed destruction of a game that you didn't enjoy. For the average person, when they don't enjoy a video game, they simply quit and move on but you, no, you must lobby for it's downfall and post inane dribble. We knew a lawyer like that once, his name was Jack Thompson.

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Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2012-02-11 21:38:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Astenion
2bhammered wrote:


No I don't think I overestimate my power of perception at all. In fact, I would bet money on that you do see a shrink and take meds, that or you are very passionate about SWToR. But I honestly do not care one way or the other, nor will I care enough talk to you anymore. I just wanted you to calm down because the way you write a post it seems like you are slamming your keyboard screaming and throwing a fit, which is not healthy at all. Also not what I want people to do with this thread.

Feel free to rant and cry about my thread until your face is blue though, I wont try to stop you, peaceStraight


Haha, the troll is strong with this one. I'm going to question people's sanity when I'm discovered to be full of it because my skin is so thin you can read a newspaper through it. Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing, just banging away at the keyboard frantically and punching my monitor. Oh, the frustration.

Forums are an art form of debate, which you suck at terribly. If you can't back up your claims or even see your idiocy, just stop posting. If you don't like being called out for saying stupid crap, stop posting stupid crap for which you will be called out. If you can't understand sarcasm with bite, stop posting...hell, for that matter what are you doing in Eve if you can't take the spears?
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#80 - 2012-02-11 21:40:01 UTC