Jita Park Speakers Corner

Hey yo Hans, you're going about this all the wrong ways. The CSM needs a good faction warfare dude and you're probably the best candidate to handle this, but you've got to focus your campaign on that, inspire your base and start figuring out ways to work with the guys who are going to be on the council, like mittens and seleene instead of setting up this confrontational posturing bullshit because you want to be the anti-goon.

CSM 6 got **** done because the personalities behind it understood how to make friends and influence people. Worry about other CSMs motivations when you get on the council, see how they work and can call them out on it there. Don't waste your opportunities with tinfoil hattery before you land the spot.

Might want to watch the video from the emergency summit and read the devblogs again. CCP credited the current CSM, both participating members who went to Iceland for the summit and those who didn't go but contributed through their forums and the skype chat for their work in steering the wayward ship back on course.

You might want to read "in defense of incarna" where mittens defends what is likely the worst expansion in eve history.

And of course ccp is going to credit csm left and right. Do you expect ccp to say that csm is a waste and they don't bother to listen to the player elected csm?

The last csm basically told ccp they were going down the wrong path and many ended up leaving. The fact is it was the last csm that was more in touch with the players than csm6. CCP and CSM finally recognized this very late in the game. Not listening to csm5 sooner cost CCP about 20% of its workforce.

Faction Warfare and nullsec both have necessary capture mechanics for their control-based objective systems. There's one school of thought that would think that developing one good system and sharing it is better than having two very bad systems. Another may consider two very different, good systems, but at the increased need for creative solutions and time to develop and implement it.

Personal opinions being what they are, the most efficient and practical answer is to develop one good system and see if you can't make it work for both. ymmv.



CSM 6 had two fireside chats where they engaged the players directly on our mumble server. Mittens makes regular appearances on eve radio shows and does interviews for bloggers and other media types.


**** you just trollin' son. This last CSM was the most successful in turning pressing issues into results. CCP has credited Crucible in large part to the CSM. Now, because lowsec and FW wasn't touched I can see where you may not be as pleased with the results as others, but Seleene did mention in this very thread that there just wasn't the time or ability to do a sweeping series of changes to those areas in the time they had available for Crucible.

The point here is that CSM6 lacked a solid Lowsec piracy/faction warfare expert and while that likely wouldn't have made a huge difference had there been one for the last session, there's some serious opportunity for the upcoming session. This won't happen if Hans doesn't capitalize on the opportunity and foster a strong base to get himself over the 2000+ votes necessary to secure a top 7 finish.

Also, while people are pointing out Mittani's hatred for lowsec because he defended incarna in his blog, he also pitched a revamp for lowsec years ago that on paper sounded fantastic. Here's a free link, the lowsec part starts about halfway down and continues on page 3:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/67950/page/2

As I said, their "achievement" is due to CCP failure and not so much their ability/brilliance .. think about what they would/could have done if Incarna had gone down as smoothly as Hilmar thought it would .. you'd be lucky to have a sov revamp on the backlog at that point .. no course-correction, WiS > FiS, same low-hanging fruit crap they have been feeding us for 2+ years.
But you are probably right, every little thing is solely due the valiant efforts of the hard working current CSM .. and when the sun comes up tomorrow we can probably praise them for that one as well!

That link to Mittens FW copy lowsec solution? Much better ones have been floated since then, especially after Incursions gave us an idea of what is possible and what is not. Sincerely hope that LS gets some sort of 'theme' as the random violence got stale after a week .. carrots to aim for and sticks to poke each other with.
Question is if CCP can/will do it in a way that doesn't rely on the fail of the EHP grind.

Oh, in case you didn't notice, I'm trying to help Hans, not tank him. Seriously, there's a vested interest in making lowsec not suck too.

Showing how you differ is well and good, but don't tack too far off of your center. People have reached out to you in this thread only to be rebuffed in a puff of ego because you don't want to be 'status-quo'. Just by being Lowsec/FW guy you'll define yourself clearly as anything but status quo and you don't open yourself up to criticism because your grasp of mechanics in areas outside of Lowsec/FW aren't as well developed.

This doesn't make you a bad candidate, because you'd have the opportunity to discuss these things, but presenting yourself as a representative of highsec, favoring the risk-adverse while advocating for changes that one of the premiere griefers is repeatedly telling you is a bad idea because it gives him more tools to grief with will cost you support, not get you more of it.

Stick with what you know, foster your base and excite them so they'll help your campaign grow organically. Then after you're elected you can get your two cents in on the issues that matter to you, and be corrected on the issues that you're less of an expert on in a private, NDA protected channel.



Best of luck to you.

Glad to hear it Hans!