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New dev blog: Remember the old new Neocom?

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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#141 - 2012-01-24 16:47:48 UTC
Valuial wrote:
No Way to get the taskbar aligned to bottom??? WTF this was the only interesting "feature" imo.

We need to be able to disable blinking by icon not the whole task bar it's stupid...

blinking anim is... well i don't care but this wavy **** is annoying...

pfff... so you haven't fixed anything, there is NO usefull aditionnal feature, well maybe the group things and the ability to remove one ore two icon but...

I don"t care about design stuff, a gray bar is a gray bar even if you add some alpha blending... WHERE iS TH STUFF??


They mentioned the horizontal Neocom is going to come soon/after the new vertical one.

Don't know why anyone wants the neocom on the bottom however as most monitors are widescreen meaning you waste valuable screen real estate having horizontal bars.
Valuial
Marmottes In Space
#142 - 2012-01-24 16:52:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Valuial
Jack Tronic wrote:
Valuial wrote:
No Way to get the taskbar aligned to bottom??? WTF this was the only interesting "feature" imo.

We need to be able to disable blinking by icon not the whole task bar it's stupid...

blinking anim is... well i don't care but this wavy **** is annoying...

pfff... so you haven't fixed anything, there is NO usefull aditionnal feature, well maybe the group things and the ability to remove one ore two icon but...

I don"t care about design stuff, a gray bar is a gray bar even if you add some alpha blending... WHERE iS TH STUFF??


They mentioned the horizontal Neocom is going to come soon/after the new vertical one.

Don't know why anyone wants the neocom on the bottom however as most monitors are widescreen meaning you waste valuable screen real estate having horizontal bars.


Maybe because we play on 4 or 6 monitor... and multiple account...
GeeBee
Backwater Redux
Tactical Narcotics Team
#143 - 2012-01-24 17:19:12 UTC
requested changes for the neo-com

1) option for chat windows to not minimize to the neocom

2) default for the config be closer to the previous version, i've gone and looked up a pre-patch screenie to re-add everything that was taken away, except the jukebox.

3) a save / import export setting on the neocom

4) you can't remove the chat thing from the neocom.

-GeeBee
Hollow Mind
Inglourious Buzzards
#144 - 2012-01-24 17:35:24 UTC
Bug: Hiding all windows via ALT-TAB leaves you without the upper part of your overview ("selected item"). Minimizing works as intended, but there is no button to open it again. Selecting via ALT-TAB does nothing.

Steps to reproduce: Press ALT-TAB and change to "Hide windows". Release ALT-TAB.

Workaround: Close all windows with STRG-ALT-W, button appears.
supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
#145 - 2012-01-24 18:44:45 UTC
Sucks give me my old neocom back wtf how is this a useful change.
scatter gun
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#146 - 2012-01-24 18:59:20 UTC
WTF? really? Chat has a PERMANANT pin on the NEOCOM but you MINIMIZE chat and now we get a SECOND chat pin? this new changed functionality at this point is a serious step backwards as it stands.

New functionality doesnt always equate to a loss in functionality, but it also does NOT mean its magically improved.

was talking about the NEOCOM changes to a friend, her response, 'sounds like a typical blizzard patch, change for the sake of change' and im begining to think she was right
Noxious89123
Noxious89123 Corporation
#147 - 2012-01-24 19:32:08 UTC
GeeBee wrote:
requested changes for the neo-com

1) option for chat windows to not minimize to the neocom

2) default for the config be closer to the previous version, i've gone and looked up a pre-patch screenie to re-add everything that was taken away, except the jukebox.

3) a save / import export setting on the neocom

4) you can't remove the chat thing from the neocom.

-GeeBee



All of this please! Especially #2 Where's all of mah buttans?! (I too used an old screenie to recover the previous layout that I've got used to after 6 years or so)

Also please can we have an option to move where the "Items" and "Ships" buttons locate when docked? We have this lovely, hugely customisable neocom, but those two buttons are immovable? Why?!

I don't want "Ships" 10mm away from "Undock" !
Eos Alexander
NOVA TECH
#148 - 2012-01-24 19:34:13 UTC
supersexysucker wrote:
Sucks give me my old neocom back wtf how is this a useful change.



same opinion here. It looks like this mouse over effect bullsh.... from windows.

Don't understand the need of changeing the bar. Who need it small, click on the two arrows. For what we need this? Keeping the jobs of the programmers?

I want the old one back too.


Eos Alexander
Regina Shepard
Regina's Wolves
#149 - 2012-01-24 19:38:04 UTC
Ok. So after using the new one I REALLY want the old one back. I am not going to rant and troll here.... Just give us the old one back or an option to use the old one if we like.
Noxious89123
Noxious89123 Corporation
#150 - 2012-01-24 19:49:28 UTC
What's the problem?

You can arrange it to look damn near identical to the old one, excepting how buttons now minimise onto the neocom rather than bottom of screen.
Davo OHno
The Sagan Clan
#151 - 2012-01-24 19:59:28 UTC
OMG!!!

Get over it already people. It's changed.

Just consider it a mandatory capsuleers pod change. New Eden made changes to their interface technology. There, does that put a happy space ship spin on it for you.

Have a problem with the ships/undock button. Change your setting so your ships and items are tabs under station services. I never used those buttons on the left anyway. In my opinion get rid of them completely. Just have it default under the station services.

There, I'm done.


Davo
Lord Jita
Lord Jita's Big Gay Corp
#152 - 2012-01-24 21:46:57 UTC
* why is items/ships buttons locked
* why can't you move buttons to the bottom near the items/ships buttons
* why can't i add chat windows to a group
* why can't i minimize chat windows to the bottom of the screen anymore so i can still see local #
* why can't i dock the neocom on the top/bottom of the screen
* why doesn't contract button blink when a contract is completed anymore?
Dyaven
#153 - 2012-01-24 21:54:14 UTC
PLEASE get rid of the blue info icon that pops up every time you open up ANY pop up window at all! It's EXTREMELY annoying and does absolutely nothing.
twincalibur
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#154 - 2012-01-24 22:05:08 UTC
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* why can't i minimize chat windows to the bottom of the screen anymore so i can still see local #


this !!!!!
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#155 - 2012-01-24 22:59:23 UTC
We also want our "day of month" back on the bottom of the Neocom.

We should be able to choose EVE time, EVE time + day of month, EVE time + day of week, or all three
Disdaine
#156 - 2012-01-24 23:15:42 UTC
Hi, we heard gamers didn't like their favorite games changing too much, so we changed something that didn't need changing for changes sake.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#157 - 2012-01-24 23:26:04 UTC
Chat windows minimalizing into the NEOCOM was a HORRIBLE IDEA!!
Ican't tell which chat is now blinking without going thru a ton of crap & workarounds.
either the minimalize to bottom has to be brought back or Chat's should be able to seperateed into other NEOCOM icons
This was a horrible PAINFUL oversight which makes me think the desiners of this are not in alliances corps or fleets often enough
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
scatter gun
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#158 - 2012-01-24 23:31:32 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Chat windows minimalizing into the NEOCOM was a HORRIBLE IDEA!!
Ican't tell which chat is now blinking without going thru a ton of crap & workarounds.
either the minimalize to bottom has to be brought back or Chat's should be able to seperateed into other NEOCOM icons
This was a horrible PAINFUL oversight which makes me think the desiners of this are not in alliances corps or fleets often enough


as i mentioned, they should minimize in the stacks they are in, chats, cans, cargos, anything thats stacked should minimize into a stack, anything thats not SHOULDNT minimize into a stack... and the neocoms minimize/maximize function should WORK STILL on stacks rather than just displaying the item list for the pin
Midnight Hope
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#159 - 2012-01-24 23:52:46 UTC
A couple of thoughts after a first 5 minute impression:

1. Minimized windows all share the same icon. This makes hunting for the right one take forever.
2. Why only the time is showing? Sometimes coordinating across TZs and continents require one to know what date is actually in EVE.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#160 - 2012-01-25 00:10:01 UTC
I just hope the devs listen and iterate on this new neocom, and don't just leave it as is.

As it is, it is one of the most annoying UI's i ever used for reasons stated in several posts above.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.