EVE General Discussion

That right there is called FREEDOM. Like I said, it's Ironic as all hell that EVE is a game about freedom of action (with what most MMO players would called a very loose/Laissez-faire set of rules) and yet the forums resemble Soviet Siberia. Once you understand that EVE players generally don't like to be told what to do, you understand why this place is so stale and EVE related subs on Reddit are thriving.

Players, yes, perhaps. They enjoy shiptoasting, currying favor with partisan mods, mass up/down voting items against their agenda.
Players can make any cancerous forum wherever they want.

But Devs? Thats where the problem lies. Ive seen it happen in too many other games where Devs and self-interested players get too buddy-buddy. The result is invariably a cliche and an echo-chamber.

It is admirable, in all instances, that Devs want to participate and interact with the community.
But there are real dangers there, especially in EVE which famously has the most proficient and conniving AWOXers of any game, ever.

Thats part of the reason the CSM exist, so as to create a community elected representative as first point of contact.
Thats also why this board exists, with its restrictions, so as to enable constructive feedback.

In essence, the Reddit board is (successful) an attempt to draw Devs off this board, to theirs, where the Redditors can autonomously regulate content without CCP restrictions on Dev or player (anonymous or not) participants, in their own interest.

F*** it Dude. Let's go bowling.

FACT: I'm going back to sleep. Way too early in the morning for this still...

You buy the beer

I hate to burst your bubble Salvos, while some of what you claim is, in all likelihood, fact, the remainder is actually supposition which by its very nature is not fact.

Removed a whole bunch of off topic posts. Keep it civil and on topic, thanks.

Is it bad that this is the first thing I thought as well? See you all on r/eve

Alrighty then.

Ill come join you on Reddit in full force.

Lets see if your claims are true.
I doubt it.

Im sure my posts will be downvoted by vested interests, and posts/account deleted by pocket mods.

Lets see if your claim of "freedom" there pans out.

Sorry I put you off, but thats your problem, not mine.
You might want to ask yourself as to why that is.

You claim Reddit offers freedom.
Are you now saying that only applies to those you agree with?

Does my syntax and format offend you?
Are you triggered?

This again just justifies my original statement on the nature of Reddit.
Mass opinion up/down voting of what ypu "dont like".

Where is the freedom in that?
No wonder you evacuated from here, when your person and opinions are so contrived that you need an echo-chamber to support them, rather than them standing on their own with you defending them.

Here, I am moderated by ISD and rules to which I have agreed to.
Yes, my freedom of expression is curtailed, but it is by contract and for good reason, by trained and accounted representatives.

On Reddit, however, where is my freedom of expression?
Mods are not accountable. Up/down voting is mass action against the position of an equal individual.

There is nothing wrong with my communication skills.
There is something wrong with yours, when you cannot accept and deal with differing positions.