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There is nothing more streamline than using the .exe
And there is no security you can add that stops dumb people using password1 or using crap isk buying websites and getting hacked.

CCP has no obligation to develop their game to somehow fit the needs of some third party software that they have no influence on.

Personally I've never had any issue with the new launcher, it's worked perfectly for me for almost 6 months. I mean those of you who have had issues with it, have you ever even thought it might be a problem on your end?

Within IT support (my profession) 9 times out of 10 when an issue a customer arises it's going to be a local issue as we have safeguards and monitoring tools to tell us when it's affecting a large percentage of our users.

Now I'm not saying CCP shouldn't help you with your individual issues and their customer service of late has been under fire (though I'm not sure, last ticket I submitted was answered and resolved within 24 hours) but you should try and exhaust all possibilities instead of just doing some real simple **** like reinstall Windows and then point the finger when that magically doesn't fix the problem.

Client authorization issues across a network are much more likely to be a problem in either the client or server software specific to the application unless other unrelated programs are affected as well. CCP controls most of the software involved at both ends. That the problems may be intermittent or perhaps only affecting a small number of users doesn't mean CCP isn't at fault. Software errors can manifest in many ways.

Unfortunately, CCP has a long history of ignoring customer complaints. This looks like it will be another case of it. However, most players won't pay for a game they repeatedly can't access. CCP may finally screw a lot of folks over in a way that can't be ignored.

Why can't we just implement 2FA in the game client?

I don't use ISBoxer but I do use Linux, and having spoken to multiple other Linux users, Window placement and input focus are very broken for many people without the wine virtual desktop wrapper. As in, literally unplayable.

I am trying right now to discover the path forward for Linux users with these issues.

That path would likely be starting the launcher itself in a wine virtual desktop -- except you can't start multiple launchers, so you have to tediously serialize logons.

Then, the option to automatically close the launcher after starting a client seems to have been removed or may never have existed, and honestly I'm not even sure how to "Alt-Tab" within the wine virtual desktop (as opposed to the native desktop) to close the background launcher after the game starts, but even if you could this would be so incredibly tedious that I find it hard to imagine that this circus act being required to log on every time wouldn't affect frequency of play.

This is very poorly conceived and the feedback at every step from the exefile crowd has been "No don't" but here we are rushing headlong into it. Why am I not surprised?

Login tokens should be invalidated whenever the account password is changed or 2FA is added.

I have been using the new launcher for a while now and I have to say it is (mostly) functional. It has forgotten my accounts a couple of times but overall it has been very stable. The use of the various profiles makes it very usable and I am happy with it.

Before the .exe option is removed however, I would like to suggest that either CCP or some of our enterprising third party developers can help develop an isboxer type window management system. The benefit that ISBoxer offers for multiboxers is:

1) Launch several clients at once (Launcher can do this)
2) Enter login information (Launcher can do this)
3) Resize and reposition windows (Launcher can only set resolution, not remember window placement)
4) Remove borders and lock window position (Launcher cannot do this)

I have yet to find a third party application that can do 3 & 4 other than Isboxer. I'm happy to try alternatives and I hope CCP will reconsider the Sept. 20th patch date since the reasoning provided appears arbitrary.

Oxi

As already stated by multiple people,
It has happened on at least 3 or more occassions in the last 6 months alone, where the only way to login to the game was to use the exe file, whilst repairs to the launcher took place & took hours to complete.
So, Can CCP please advise what the intended work around will be for when the launcher fails.
If there will be no alternate way to log in, as a paying customer, I would demand a refund or compensation of some kind, just as I would when buying other RL goods or services.
If CCP was happy to do that when those circumstances arise, then I would not have any objection, but I would like to see CCP stating that they would do so in writing, before these changes take effect.

100% THIS

Pretty much agree there,
CCPLZ explain how adding a shittn of scrips and Http connections
*which btw don work on my win7 cause Certificate issues*
Ads, Facebookbullshit and so on BEVORE playing the game ,
How in the living hell does that increase MY SECURITY ?

tldr: new launcher just throws up anormous ammounts of certificate issues and doesnt work,
if exe login wont run, no way to play the game, sad day .) gg ccp

IMHO the Launcher is working fine. I have yet to have a problem with it. both logging in multible accounts and logging into test servers works like a charm. The profile thing is a pretty good feature to make changes to only one account or to several or getting some settings to the test server and back. all in all id say it does it job really well. I have yet to have a problem with it since my return 4 month ago or there about.