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EXEFILE Login To Be Discontinued On September 20th

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Jynx Archipedigo
Tripoint Mercetile Rimrunners
#181 - 2016-09-08 16:15:20 UTC
Xavier Arcesium wrote:
Teinyhr wrote:
Seeing as the launcher is somekind of mini-browser in itself, and IIRC has been infected with malware before, I have to seriously wonder and doubt how does this enhance account security in any way?

P.S. I have not used the client login system since how many years has it been we've had the launcher, just saying, I'm not buying the "improved security" thing at all.


Presuming they do it right, it's a way to prevent anything that isn't an official launcher to run exefile. That said, I hope the tradeoff is worth it. I have had a lot of trouble running the launcher myself and would hate to lose the workaround.


It is pretty much a done deal, I don't think I've ever seen CCP not do something they said they where gonna do, no matter the backlash. It will remain to be seen if it gets reversed or how many months after the fact.
Drazz Caylen
Team-Pyro Industries
#182 - 2016-09-08 22:42:59 UTC
Jynx Archipedigo wrote:
Until I notice yesterday BANG in game browser back when I tried using a previously saved BM in client.
The ingame browser never went away. It will be removed this fall. The only things they did was change the default behaviour to open the system browser instead of the IGB. You can still open the IGB and browse to your leisure, or drag images into it. Just count the days you have left as long as you can do it, because it won't be long.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#183 - 2016-09-09 00:25:12 UTC
Assia Eko wrote:
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Assia Eko wrote:
Hello,

I used to login through a SSH Tunnel that is installed on my main computer at home for security reasons, and in order to log in from places with unsafes connections (airport, train station, public wifi, work..)

I was using the /server:127.0.0.1 option in the shortlink to exefile.exe.

Will it still be possible to add such option to the executable via the launcher ?

Thank you,

Assia

Just run a VPN from home.



A lot of computers are protected from installing a TAP interface on them (like 99% of the public computers). Although they can run Putty (or any other SSH client) and the game can still be launched from a usb stick.

So, my question is still the same, will it still be possible to add parameters to exefile.exe for it to connect to localhost, for instance.

Thank you,

Assia

What about using a TUN interface?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#184 - 2016-09-09 00:47:41 UTC
Jynx Archipedigo wrote:
Seriously CCP, you got some weird things going on...

Couple months ago the in game browser was removed, understandable, maintaining browser support even if you can leech mozilla source code legally but is a security bug haven and PITA .. So when you click links/saved bookmarks client WAS giving a warning and opens your default browser. Until I notice yesterday BANG in game browser back when I tried using a previously saved BM in client. Kinda shocked me, don't know why it was back or if it was supposed to be back.

Now I'm guessing, and I could be wrong, it isn't supposed to be back and if that is the case it raises even stronger argument that there could be mismanagement in the build repositories and deployment. If you circle it back around to the thread's topic, if something that was supposed to and was removed somehow reappears. Why in the world should we as consumers be laid back about an aspect of the way the game works that has offered a work around to other issues frequent or infrequent as depending on the individuals experience. Running the exefile directly on an up to date patch virtually always works and quite frankly is quicker if you have previously quit the launcher and want to switch characters on the same account.

I'll stand corrected if it can be pointed out the browser was intentionally reinstated


More people who no idea what they're talking about complaining about things they don't understand...

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Jynx Archipedigo
Tripoint Mercetile Rimrunners
#185 - 2016-09-09 01:50:11 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Jynx Archipedigo wrote:
Seriously CCP, you got some weird things going on...

Couple months ago the in game browser was removed, understandable, maintaining browser support even if you can leech mozilla source code legally but is a security bug haven and PITA .. So when you click links/saved bookmarks client WAS giving a warning and opens your default browser. Until I notice yesterday BANG in game browser back when I tried using a previously saved BM in client. Kinda shocked me, don't know why it was back or if it was supposed to be back.

Now I'm guessing, and I could be wrong, it isn't supposed to be back and if that is the case it raises even stronger argument that there could be mismanagement in the build repositories and deployment. If you circle it back around to the thread's topic, if something that was supposed to and was removed somehow reappears. Why in the world should we as consumers be laid back about an aspect of the way the game works that has offered a work around to other issues frequent or infrequent as depending on the individuals experience. Running the exefile directly on an up to date patch virtually always works and quite frankly is quicker if you have previously quit the launcher and want to switch characters on the same account.

I'll stand corrected if it can be pointed out the browser was intentionally reinstated


More people who no idea what they're talking about complaining about things they don't understand...



I do understand quite a bit, somethings in depth and breadth far exceeding anything I would be inclined to share or even be permitted to particularly involving PC gaming on this or mahny other forums. But as I had not used the bookmarks from accessories and only clicked on links appearing in chat. Hence the complete quantifiers in my statement, plus the concession I may have been mistaken in advance. Since I had already experienced the apparent first stage of a transition and had no reason to suspect that the full transition had not been executed since it wasn't a potentially system critical aspect of the client. All in all it doesn't detract from other statements I have made in regards to the matter at hand. My post postulated a viable premise against an assumption that I admitted could possibly be inaccurate and had the humility to question it myself. The quip in response was pointless and only demonstrates a lack of understanding in a different direction. The remainder of my post still can stand without the postulated return of the IGB when it was not removed but altered in advance of final removal.
Henricks
#186 - 2016-09-09 02:11:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Henricks
CCP,

WE DONT Use you're Launcher because we can not past our user name and passwords in to the fields, when we try to pin it too the launcher the next time we launch the launcher we have to retype the user name and passwords.....

This is way I use the EXEFILE................ Don't like wasting time on typing out my long passwords, and having to do it twice because I messed up, that just grrrrr


1:) FIX the launcher first, with the ability to past user name and passwords
2:) Let us have a windows lay out program from the launcher
3:) Then Remove the EVEFILE from the bin
4:) most everyone is happy :)


Just my thoughts

Henricks
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#187 - 2016-09-09 05:19:37 UTC
Jynx Archipedigo wrote:
stuff


So instead you go on a rant with the basis being something completely false. Pretty much invalidating your entire post.

Also paragraphs bro. Use them

Art of Explosions
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#188 - 2016-09-09 05:21:06 UTC
Henricks wrote:
CCP,

WE DONT Use you're Launcher because we can not past our user name and passwords in to the fields, when we try to pin it too the launcher the next time we launch the launcher we have to retype the user name and passwords.....

This is way I use the EXEFILE................ Don't like wasting time on typing out my long passwords, and having to do it twice because I messed up, that just grrrrr


1:) FIX the launcher first, with the ability to past user name and passwords
2:) Let us have a windows lay out program from the launcher
3:) Then Remove the EVEFILE from the bin
4:) most everyone is happy :)


Just my thoughts

Henricks


Who is 'WE'?

Pasting username and passwords has been disabled on multiple platforms (online banking for example) because it's a security risk.

Art of Explosions
Airin Star
Perkone
Caldari State
#189 - 2016-09-09 07:27:43 UTC
I wonder if CCP point is "This new launcher is long to load, full of bugs, working by holidays, shows a lot of trash, have requirments higher then game, but sure you will like it."Ugh
She11by
Big Boys Don't Cry
Kids With Guns Alliance
#190 - 2016-09-09 07:54:54 UTC
Launcher keep forgeting accounts and passwords 24\7 fix it PLZ
Tristanor
Majorum Gnavita In Industria
#191 - 2016-09-09 08:16:28 UTC
quess what? Just logged in in the launcher and....all my account info (again) gone.... That is the reason I use isboxer....cause the launcher is broken now for months. So if you weant to leave us without the .exe, give us a launcher that just is working
Tanalasin Saraki
Perkone
Caldari State
#192 - 2016-09-09 08:31:38 UTC
I'm actually beginning to wonder if any of these people complaining have thought that it might be down to one simple thing... like letting it have access through your firewall???

Sometimes it can be little things like that, that people seem to overlook.

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Drazz Caylen
Team-Pyro Industries
#193 - 2016-09-09 10:33:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Drazz Caylen
Jynx Archipedigo wrote:
Hence the complete quantifiers in my statement, plus the concession I may have been mistaken in advance.
Is there a reason why you completely ignored the explanation I've given you and decided to answer in wide swaths to a later post containing a snappy remark which didn't even answer your question? Just wondering.


Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Also paragraphs bro. Use them
Before executing superficial low blows, make sure your own grammar is in check Blink
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
More people who no idea what they're talking about complaining about things they don't understand...
Jynx Archipedigo
Tripoint Mercetile Rimrunners
#194 - 2016-09-09 13:17:12 UTC
Drazz Caylen wrote:
Jynx Archipedigo wrote:
Until I notice yesterday BANG in game browser back when I tried using a previously saved BM in client.
The ingame browser never went away. It will be removed this fall. The only things they did was change the default behaviour to open the system browser instead of the IGB. You can still open the IGB and browse to your leisure, or drag images into it. Just count the days you have left as long as you can do it, because it won't be long.


I quoted backed to this instead of the following quotes of quotes posts, it was appreciated. As I did request to be corrected if I had made faults in my observation since I wasn't 100%. I did not intend to gloss over you correction and thoughts on the IGB portion of one of my previous posts. My interaction to the IGB was usually to seeing it open, when double clicking links. After the time it was stated it was being removed my experience was it gave a pop up and launched a tab in my default browser. Even for a couple bm's in accessories that previously opened with the IGB. It was the Eve-Survival bm that opened with the IGB that surprised me, since other bm's and links had opened externally until that specific instance worked.

It was not surprising to receive quoted comments about the aspects I called into question and why if the situation as observed could have been caused with other(s) devaluing the entire comment as lacking any insight. Even when I proposed it as conditional based on an observation for the more detailed why it could have happened and how it relates to topic at hand it true.

So in a nutshell, thank you for giving me the correction, plus added thank you for understanding the premise behind my thought. Especially when others find it so easy to be grammar faciasts and respond in clever little quips Big smile
Drazz Caylen
Team-Pyro Industries
#195 - 2016-09-09 13:51:46 UTC
Jynx Archipedigo wrote:
It was the Eve-Survival bm that opened with the IGB that surprised me, since other bm's and links had opened externally until that specific instance worked.
This really is curious if you consider how even bookmarking the default website (evegate) and clicking it from elsewhere prompts the outgame browser.
Btw, thanks for the explanation of your reasoning, and you're right. Funky cats left-right-n-center, eh Lol /)
Edd Cobon-Han
Doomheim
#196 - 2016-09-09 14:00:55 UTC
removing the possiblility to start via the exefile brings a big problem for all those who used to play on their laptop with dual VGA

If you have a combo like me (Nvidia GTX 860 + Intel HD 4600) you hardly NEED the exefile , otherwise you can only play with dat damn Intel HD grafucks and this is no fun OopsOopsOops
CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#197 - 2016-09-09 14:41:38 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Darwin
Edd Cobon-Han wrote:
removing the possiblility to start via the exefile brings a big problem for all those who used to play on their laptop with dual VGA

If you have a combo like me (Nvidia GTX 860 + Intel HD 4600) you hardly NEED the exefile , otherwise you can only play with dat damn Intel HD grafucks and this is no fun OopsOopsOops

With dual-GPU systems, in some instances Windows will report the integrated GPU even when the discrete GPU is actually in use. In those cases, Eve may display the wrong GPU name in the graphics options window, but you may still be using the correct GPU. I would use the frame rate viewer (ctrl-F in-game) to see if you are actually experiencing a large frame rate drop when, say, unplugged vs. plugged in.

Can you use the in-game tool (press the F12 key and click Report Bug) to file a bug report that explains why the launcher doesn't work for you? This will give us a complete snapshot of your system, and we can investigate the behavior on a similar system here. Be very specific in your report what steps you're taking to select the GPU. Please feel free to mail me the bug report number once it's submitted.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#198 - 2016-09-09 18:45:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Mortimer Civeri
CCP Darwin wrote:


Can you use the in-game tool (press the F12 key and click Report Bug) to file a bug report that explains why the launcher doesn't work for you?

So we have to log in with a launcher that doesn't work, to tell you that the launcher doesn't work.

I suppose that the next patch notes will be displayed prominently.

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#199 - 2016-09-09 18:56:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
https://community.eveonline.com/support/submit-bug-report for submitting bugs out of client.

doing it _in_ client means CCP gets more information. (as at least some of the people are saying that they can't use the launcher, so they're obviously using the exefile atm.)


Aside from that, the response wasn't in a 'launcher doesn't work' report. it was in a 'launcher started programs don't cause the second GPU on my laptop' report

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Old IT Guy
Far Reaches Industries
#200 - 2016-09-09 19:53:30 UTC
Personally, I'd like to know how we're supposed to launch the game with no EXEFile when the launcher INEVITABLY breaks again.

Curious minds, and all that.