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Sounds to me more like CCP are willing to release ill thought out and poorly developed ideas onto tranquillity with little to no quality control. It annoys me that CCP even thought this was a good idea to begin with.

This is something I hadn't thought of, but it's an excellent point. It's all well and good for me to warp my Eagle to a belt to zap a rat and be off, but there are newbies out there that might actually be taking a risk to get the SP they sorely want. I bet succeeding at that sort of thing would make a new player feel pretty good.

I guess I will go back to log in once a week.

It's actually a rush to kite a frigate rat in a rifter with 2 million SP.

Thank you CCP Rise, for reviewing data and reporting back.

I've read most every post up to this point, and noted around ~15 unique posts pointing out a great benefit to new players. While that is all well and good, CCP Rise let us know in a follow-up post to the previous thread that this feature would have to be "relevant" to ALL players in order to be called successful. I finally shot a few rats that got in my way, but looking at ~100m SP, it did not make me want to log in if I wasn't going to already.

The upcoming Shadow of the Serpent event will do exactly this. Check the planned addition to the character selection screen in the devblog screenshots. "Event points" we accumulate for performing various activities - including the possibility of mining, will unlock increasingly valuable rewards.

Evo Team vs. Playerbase 0:1

So good....

Early gameplay rewards mission grinding.
Standings, LP Gain, ISK rewards, other fixed rewards.

"New" players would have naturally earned that 10k/day reward.
Older Industrialist wouldn't naturally, but for them it would be easy to put their installers in a system with a complex with small rats and do remote jobs.
Market Traders wouldn't naturally, but the same as the Industrialist goes - remote orders.
Mission runners and rat hunters would benefit, truth be told those players doing that probably have little need for the SP, and if they are based around good spots now then buying a Injector wouldn't cause most of them any real dent in the wallet.
PVP players wouldn't naturally earn these things, and if they are in a highly populated low-rat area of space then it might be a pain for them to do this every day. Traditionally this is who CCP listens to (hence why so many people were crying over this feature to begin with).

If this "idea" was to keep players in the game then it was not a good one. Like I said before, I am "was?" logging in about 23 accounts just to "farm" this every day. press play on 6 accounts at a time and it doesn't take any real time. Perhaps they are removing it due to players like me "Abusing" the system?...

The problem with EVE is that it was/is complicated. Some things they try to make easier - by making them more complicated!

For example, Production about 10 years ago would let you put a blueprint in for "infinite" runs and all you had to do was feed it materials... In > Out constantly .. They wanted to make players engage the system more, give players different "Roles"... They made it more complicated.

R&D Agents, They were a HUGE grind for us players who used them (early days there was slim chances of great rewards), but then so many PVP players complained about the high cost of Tech2, New Industrialist complained that they couldn't get into Tech2. Invention was born. With Invention came the use of those old R&D Agents - Lots of passive ISK to be earned for some... We need to tax that and make it more complicated. Gave it a little time and R&D Agents were useless (Not even worth going to visit!). Tech2 bpo's have little to no real earning potential (tho, they still have much less hassle!). Invention players complained and once again CCP Jumped to help them... Invention was re-vamped again to help them become profitable... Run that out a few months and it is not profitable again and the are all mad.

So now they are at a stage where the older players don't get the Joy.
Newer players feel left behind.
Many PVP only players feel that they need to buy their way into the game.
Industrial players feel like they need to get a PhD in Algebraic Geometry to be competitive. (I would be happy if most would just learn to look at cost -v- reward).
PVE is meh... They push the interesting stuff out into areas where the PVP players can PewPew rat hunters.

CCP has spent too much time trying to make Everyone happy, Trying to push people into "Roles", Trying to milk the rich people in EVE to drain the isk, and trying to milk the rich people who play eve just so they can fund some odd projects.

I still love the Idea of EVE. I loved the fact that DUST once tied in with EVE - Something that we should applaud CCP for.

CCP should have pushed WIS, They should have pushed "Flying" on/at planets for other types of combat.

Sadly they just want to keep moving into the direction of "Fixing" everything and at the same time making everything more complicated. Look at the fact that they are pushing "CREST" and removing the browser (I can understand the need to remove it). But they are taking something where someone can write a simple URL and make things happen ingame, to a system where... Well, A system where you need programming skills to do that same thing. They want people to stop scraping the cache for information, but their endpoint doesn't give great updates. Players managed to do it but CCP couldn't... CCP did manage to kill the market sites and external WIKI's.

You say you don't get why someone would want to log in every day to kill a RAT.
Some players want to log in every day to manage orders.
Some players want to log in every day to build stuff.
Some players want to log in every day to kill NPCs.

Be mad if you want, but 10k SP per day is really small in the scheme of changes this game has seen over the years (some good, some bad, some truly WTF).

I really feel like that this is unnecessary.

When I get my 10k daily I always thing about those newbie days that I would absolutely love having that 10k free SP a day to not waste all that time training the most basic of things.
I feel like the dailes were great for new players.

That wasn't the reason for me, a self-proclaimed newb and bittervet of 7 years.

Dailies for unique non-cosmetic rewards are burdensome for bittervets, as these type of dailies become a requirement rather than an optional bonus.

Should the daily have been for say 100 aurum, I really wouldn't have cared about it.

Another example is the Project Discovery rewards, which I don't have any issue with.