EVE General Discussion

really?
Is lvl4 mission runner fully T2 fitted BS profitable?
Is empty capsule profitable?
Is empty rookie ship profitable?
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You couldn't be more wrong, CCP have repeatedly said otherwise; turning hisec into a PvE shard in a famously unsharded game would essentially break Eve.

Hisec is by design, a PvP zone. It always has been and always should be.

You do realise that gankers are usually alts of people doing other stuff including low and nullsec PvP, and that wardeccers generally appreciate people fighting back?

Crawl back under your bridge, I'll steal a scrawny goat and send it along shortly.

If said mission ship fits no tank, full cargo extenders in lows/rigs and goes with full t2 gear then yes it is. The gank talos for example can be ganked for profit.

The empty pod and rookie ship obviously not because they have nothing of value fitted to them.

I haven't seen this much salt since I visited the Bonneville Salt Flats.

So your gameplay gets nerf'd a bit. One day the great Pendulum of Balance will swing back in your direction. Learn to adapt and try something different for a while.

Sure you can, try some other game play for a bit. Doing the same thing for years should get old.

My main's career has done the complete circuit of empire mining, missions, low sec ratting, null sec sov warfare, null npc warefare, worm hole, low sec pirate, and etc.

I've ganked in hi sec on occasion, but to be honest there is so much more out there than to cry about this one game mechanic that has become so much more popular and effective in the last several years.

But as with many other things Eve players have perfected, the nerf bat will eventually hit and may even hit for wrecking, but there will be a rebalance after everyone has long forgot about all the drama and nostalgia eventually gets CCP to bring it back in some form.

This is not the first game mechanic that has got this treatment.

I am starting to realize the salt is too refined. We already see a nerf to bumping, but we have pointed out that a crew with their act together can handle it. But I see white mainstream table salt, not the dirty kind you get from a mine or the sea.

In a month or two, we'll be seeing a C&P thread from some codies about their ganks after the change. They already know how to do it right. But maybe, just maybe, they are making all the noise now so when they pull freighter ganks right on the gate, it will add weight to the boasting they plan.

We'll point out how we stated that it's a nerf to bumping, not ganking, and they'll gaslight and play coy as if we never did, as if we popped champaign corks and celebrated the end of ganking or something, and then to engage the argument after that point will be taken as "tears", or our lack of surprise will be taken as hiding our surprise and hence declared "tears".


I like the idea of not letting -10s dock in a station. It's possible after all, in the mechanics. That they can do so now is as dumb as say, getting insurance payouts for criminal acts, or all wrecks having 500 hp, or being able to warp scram a ship endlessly without using an actual warp scramming module - what is it? Oh yes, bumping!. People already wonder how faction war targets can dock anywhere in enemy space. It's possible for a station to be like "no dock for you!!!" already in the mechanics.

Yes maybe that day should come and then all that will need to be done is to kill ganker citadels like burning a beehive (no pun intended) in the back yard.

Yeah hisec would be better as it should link to security levels which is why I said hisec when I put up that idea, my objective in this is to push them to put up a Citadel or something like that. It is nothing to do with nerf someone else because they don't play the way I like, I want to see real meaningful combat over strategic assets in hisec and if you want to keep saying its because I don't like their gameplay you are missing the point by a wide margin...

Goes to show how rare tengu ganking is, sure.

Except it's not, once again, it's ship specialties. Just like how other ships have varying statistics and traits, mining ships do too.

Doubt it, there are plenty of non-profitable freighter ganks. Besides, you claim mining barges aren't profitable, and yet they get ganked all the time.

I was going to agree with her on the point about high sec status players docking in pirate stations, I even have a bit of "things I would do were it up to me ™ in addition to simply removing the ability of -10 players to dock in highsec". I would even go so far as to let low sec status players run up pirate faction so they could get a pirate citadel model that does not turn up on the overview.

but...

she wants to do forum PVP so the heck with discussions, tossing ideas around, and seeing where we could agree on things.

The usual.

Ahahha... high sec ganking is "content" now... Also, nice try, code alt.



It would be much easier than that. Code probably wouldn't even put them up because they know they wont last after one vulnerability cycle.