Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Maybe that's something to be addressed? :-)

Good luck, barring one or two posters this thread has devolved into a negativity circlej**k about how you are bad at the game for not liking gatecamps. Instead of any kind of discussion about what could be better or how things could be improved people are instead just bashing you for not knowing how to avoid gatecamps; despite your claims that you do I'm fact know how to dodge them.

Nobody is calling for eve to be a carebear paradise where no ships get killed, I am saying that gatecamp mechanics are one of the less interesting parts of the game. Fighting should happen in system and not on the artificial boundaries CCP have had to implement for technical reasons, namely gates.

I think an easy fix could be a lot of stars leading into Nullsec. Vs a few.

It seems the consensus among Features & Ideas posters is that more interesting mechanics take a back seat in this case, which is a little disappointing.

On a Features & Ideas related note, is there any sort of polling mechanism in place somewhere, first or third party, to get broader input on Eve features? Or is this forum it?

They definitely should not artificially limit where fights happen, but the best strategy should not be sitting at these artificial boundaries waiting for ships to jump blindly into your trap. As I've said previously I don't want to remove gatecamps entirely. I think a map rework to lessen the number of choke points would be the best solution. Then alliances would be required to camp two or three gates at once to safeguard their pocket, and for travellers they would less often be forced to pass choke points requiring travel fits.

So the question is, how do you get people to fight away from the stargates? Right now most combat happens on or near the stargates. In fact, a lot of fights that should or could have happened don't happen simply because no one wants to jump their fleet into another fleet who's already set up and ready. Being set up is a real advantage, and if all other factors are balanced, why would someone want to put themselves in the position of disadvantage at the very outset of the fight? I've seen more than one fleet run from a fight they would have otherwise taken simply because they refused to jump into the opposing fleet and the opposing fleet refused to move from their position of advantage. How do we get these two fleets to engage somewhere else?

It would be technically impossible to have eve in one giant starsystem. Systems serve to allow for each one to have a server. Your character moves from server to server as you jump (I believe and I'm sure I'll be corrected if wrong).

Lessening the amount of choke points would lessen the amount of perma-camped systems meaning you have better chances of moving around and not being dunked.

It's quite simple, if you find gatecamps not interesting, just don't camp or ignore them. Gatecamps are not created by CCP but by players liking them, if they would not like it they would not do it. Everybody can fight where he wants and do what he thinks is fun, it's a sandbox. So why do you want to restrict a particular playstyle else than because in fact it annoys you dealing with camps?

It's boring because they have relied so much on emergent gameplay for content they forgot they were actually developing a game.

Put something in space worth fighting over, with balanced mechanics so that a fight isn't decided at undock, and fight will happen off gates.

However, I can't support the OP, despite the shock and dismay of not seeing me post in support of the PvE guy. Gate Camps may be crappy, but the answer is to crash them with your own pack of friends and clear them out.

Sadly there aren't enough white knights in the world for that.

Well, it's certainly a logical thing to happen. Pirates will go where the traffic is.

The only part that really does not make sense is the low response of the empires to this threat to shipping. Functioning governments would have much stronger defenses on the gates and important structures. Pirates would need to lure shipping away from these protected areas, which the game does not really provide a mechanism for.