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Why do off grid links exist?

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Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#101 - 2015-11-25 14:38:41 UTC
If you dislike fighting linked ships I highly recommend that you hunt them.

I've killed 8 of them in the last 2 days of action in Pavanakka.

Proof

Also, if you would like assistance in learning how to kill link ships Gallente Militia is recruiting and willing to teach.

- Than
Switch Savage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2015-11-25 14:50:53 UTC
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
If you dislike fighting linked ships I highly recommend that you hunt them.

I've killed 8 of them in the last 2 days of action in Pavanakka.

Proof

Also, if you would like assistance in learning how to kill link ships Gallente Militia is recruiting and willing to teach.

- Than


Brings a tear to my eye, nice work.
Raya Efiel
Thera 344
#103 - 2015-11-25 18:18:26 UTC
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
If you dislike fighting linked ships I highly recommend that you hunt them.

I've killed 8 of them in the last 2 days of action in Pavanakka.

Proof

Also, if you would like assistance in learning how to kill link ships Gallente Militia is recruiting and willing to teach.

- Than



Killing our links! Not cool. How are we supposed to fight the Gals without links? P
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#104 - 2015-11-25 18:29:29 UTC
Player solution to making the gameplay of ogb a little more consuming.

Who would have thought?
Arla Sarain
#105 - 2015-11-25 20:06:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Arla Sarain
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
If you dislike fighting linked ships I highly recommend that you hunt them.

I've killed 8 of them in the last 2 days of action in Pavanakka.

Proof

Also, if you would like assistance in learning how to kill link ships Gallente Militia is recruiting and willing to teach.

- Than

This is just rolling the argument back and forth like a poorly wrapped joint.

You caught some link ships amongst heavy commotion.

The entire discussion just goes back and forth between the same points
A) Links are nigh uncounterable in small gang/1v1 fights.
B) Links are crucial for small gangs to fight blobs
C) Links are counterable with a highly specialised investment assuming the links owner is occupied and doesn't check D-SCAN
D) Fighting links boils down to who brings a prober or another linking ship.
E) "This is an MMO so bring some pet frands to play the bullshit part of the game, cos frands"
D) Countering link ships in LS involves circumventing the station/gate mechanics.

Each successive post just repeats one or two of these.

Tiring TBH.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#106 - 2015-11-25 20:11:34 UTC
I said nothing about supporting current design of links. I'm just a proponent of hunting them and blowing them up for isk.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#107 - 2015-11-25 20:12:24 UTC
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
If you dislike fighting linked ships I highly recommend that you hunt them.

I've killed 8 of them in the last 2 days of action in Pavanakka.

Proof

Also, if you would like assistance in learning how to kill link ships Gallente Militia is recruiting and willing to teach.

- Than


I like this. Never underestimate how people will forgo tank because they want the best bang for their buck.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#108 - 2015-11-26 11:35:35 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
You will just see more of it as developers realize they can get away with it. You already see examples here.

"MUH P2W superboosting pet is fair because everyone can buy one!"


In those years I've used my links, I've been probed maybe half a dozen times and had to move my OGB. Compared to the number of times I've been called names for using them, that's not a lot.

Else I got two toons with CS skills, so I'm nerfproof anyways. It's just not that feasible cause cap consumption on warfare links is stupid and makes it extremely hard to justify putting them on field as opposed to leaving them on a safespot. They make links passive, or with token ativation cost - I'll reconsider. Also, a CS boosting itself without the need to have a random guy somewhere in system is needed.
C11H17NO3
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
#109 - 2015-11-26 16:23:58 UTC
I do not care that links and or "off grid links" exist.

I just want to have the linking char and ship show up on Kill mails so we know who the truly solo pilots are and which ones are not.

I also want a status attribute on KM's to denote whether the pilots were in a fleet or not at the time, to indicate scout and probe/scanning use.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#110 - 2015-11-27 00:36:28 UTC
C11H17NO3 wrote:
I do not care that links and or "off grid links" exist.

I just want to have the linking char and ship show up on Kill mails so we know who the truly solo pilots are and which ones are not.

I also want a status attribute on KM's to denote whether the pilots were in a fleet or not at the time, to indicate scout and probe/scanning use.

Well from CCP Fozzie on the stream today, links are being bought on grid soon (not before Christmas, so we can assume early in the new year) and possibly with an area of effect also.

Those that use links will adapt and the whinging will continue as always.
D0nci
Ten Below Zero
#111 - 2015-11-27 00:39:53 UTC
The whiners won, they'll be removing OGB in the next few months. Roll RIP small gang, all hail the blobs. Fozzie talks about it in this stream:

http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/v/27816547

from 1:08:25 (rest is not really important)
ALUCARD 1208
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#112 - 2015-11-27 00:48:42 UTC
falcon alts errywere \o/
D0nci
Ten Below Zero
#113 - 2015-11-27 00:56:53 UTC
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:
falcon alts errywere \o/

And thus the whining will continue until they remove ECM from game. Then the next best anti-blob mechanic... It really just keeps on going until we are only left with n00bships.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#114 - 2015-11-27 01:27:28 UTC
People are already gearing up for ewar whining with the new faction electronic frigs. Personally, im gearing up to make sure my booster alt is very well trained for them.
Dani Maulerant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2015-11-27 01:41:06 UTC
Least with ewar alts those KMs will no longer list information as appearing faux "solo" lolololol
Much easier to trade, track, and prove information of who flies with an extra on hand.

I think this year I will be asking the Mall Santa for bulk industrial drum containers for all the tears to come.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#116 - 2015-11-27 01:42:32 UTC
You realise that people cry more about being perma jammed than they do when they lose to someone who is boosted?
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#117 - 2015-11-27 05:42:10 UTC  |  Edited by: IbanezLaney
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
You realise that people cry more about being perma jammed than they do when they lose to someone who is boosted?




I think unsubbing link toons to hit CCP in the pocket and to lower the online player count will also be an option for people who use links.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2015-11-27 06:34:49 UTC
I'm gonna need a bigger mop for all these tears.

#getgood
Yun Kuai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#119 - 2015-11-27 06:40:13 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
You realise that people cry more about being perma jammed than they do when they lose to someone who is boosted?




I think unsubbing link toons to hit CCP in the pocket and to lower the online player count will also be an option for people who use links.


Interestingly enough, I just resubbed my alt account. Granted she's got CS 5 and max links, but she also has logi 5, Cal/Gal BS 5, Recon 5, and can sit in a Cal/Gal Carrier. I won't be so upset with links moving on grid.

Now, just need to talk to the Chinese government and explain to them why they need to open up their interwebs because dual boxing here is just asking for insta-DC's all day, everydayUgh

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Kalo Askold
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#120 - 2015-11-27 07:32:39 UTC
Meh links are the cancer of lowsec and now highsec station games. Need at least a 2bil pod to compete or pay for another account. Then ccp wonders why their active numbers are so small with less and less new people no matter how good the tutorial phase is. Between links and op ships no reason for a new bro to try eve pvp unless dragged in by a friend. Thier play time will just be death after death because someone has another account running a 500mil t3c for their 3 mil kestrel vs their own low sp kestrel. As for older people using links, lol risk adverse little s----. Enjoy dying to my griffin fleets!