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Notice: Investgation and Prize Item Freeze for Teams in ATXIII

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Korben Bada
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-09-16 01:51:09 UTC
Good move. Do a proper investigation and if all clear hand them back.

What is CCP going to do if the allegations are true however? The rules are pretty unclear around these issues, even though what they did isn't in the competitive spirit of the tourny and a disservice to viewers and fans.
Eklykti
Zion foundation
#22 - 2015-09-16 01:53:11 UTC
So, when PL used the monkeysphere exploit, CCP said their logs show nothing. And now, whel PL **** overheated the fan, you are 'investigating'.
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#23 - 2015-09-16 01:55:10 UTC
Eklykti wrote:
So, when PL used the monkeysphere exploit, CCP said their logs show nothing. And now, whel PL **** overheated the fan, you are 'investigating'.



Monkeysphere is undetectable, there fore it is legal
Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#24 - 2015-09-16 02:03:53 UTC
Eklykti wrote:
So, when PL used the monkeysphere exploit, CCP said their logs show nothing. And now, whel PL **** overheated the fan, you are 'investigating'.


EleGiggle

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Cobat Marland
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#25 - 2015-09-16 02:18:41 UTC
CCP Logibro wrote:
all prizes distributed to either team have been frozen and moved for safekeeping

Good call
Captain Thunk
Explode. Now. Please.
Alliance. Now. Please.
#26 - 2015-09-16 02:19:43 UTC
Eklykti wrote:
So, when PL used the monkeysphere exploit, CCP said their logs show nothing. And now, whel PL **** overheated the fan, you are 'investigating'.


It was never used in AT matches.

PL is an honourable alliance.
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
#27 - 2015-09-16 02:26:26 UTC
Entity wrote:
This is like a bad soap opera.

Bad soaps operas are the best ones though.
Hendrick Tallardar
Doomheim
#28 - 2015-09-16 02:31:00 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Logibro
English only outside of the language specific forums - CCP Logibro
KIAGumpy
Tri-gun
An Alliance Has No Name
#29 - 2015-09-16 04:31:28 UTC
If no one gets banned can we at least have CCP just send 7 trillion isk to the Camlords Captain and not have a bullshit tourney every year instead?
Krops Vont
#30 - 2015-09-16 04:43:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Krops Vont
michael chasseur wrote:
Entity wrote:
This is like a GREAT soap opera.



ftfy


plz

Also, will skins and other related stuff be postponed?

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Propaganda/Art/Media

Wormhole Finding & Selling

o/ Play for fun

Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
SE7EN-SINS
#31 - 2015-09-16 06:28:39 UTC
CCP, I have to say, you haven't been doing the right thing very often lately, but this is a definite step in the right direction. The only comment I'd make is on this statement:

CCP Logibro wrote:
in case we find that rules have been broken in the tournament and we need to remove prizes.


All I have to ask is... can you please not pretend there's any other possibility?

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#32 - 2015-09-16 06:48:09 UTC
ty Logibro.
I'm surprised about your quick action but penalizing any form of cheat in AT is the only way you can go.
Captain Thunk
Explode. Now. Please.
Alliance. Now. Please.
#33 - 2015-09-16 06:48:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Thunk
Andreus Ixiris wrote:

All I have to ask is... can you please not pretend there's any other possibility?


If there's no tangible evidence that foul play occurred that's demonstrable as fact, CCP have no other choice. They can't find a group guilty for something on the basis of an unverifiable log and some rabble-rousing. Though of course, if they find something then it's not a problem.

That said, I think they definately need to think carefully about rules on collusion for next year, if people can't trust the tournament then winning means nothing.
Roti Rotineque
Per mortem ad Astra
I Know Right
#34 - 2015-09-16 06:56:28 UTC
Oh noez. I bought one price ship, and it is gone. Quitting eve right now...
NYT
Evolution
Northern Coalition.
#35 - 2015-09-16 07:37:47 UTC
Lee Thrace wrote:


All based on a statement made by someone who waited until they had sold their own prizes to come forward. lol.



That's what Eve is all about: maximizing your own profit and then betraying your "friends."

All while being lauded as a hero, naturally!
trenny jr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2015-09-16 08:27:42 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD FlowingSpice
Callduron wrote:
Ripard Teg wrote:

And all of that is assuming that Camel/Warlords didn't cross the line.


Part of the accusation is that they did cross the line.

Removed Chat Log and Link, Please follow Rule 35 - FlowingSpice



Yea cos text logs are solid evidence.
Johnny Twelvebore
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#37 - 2015-09-16 08:32:17 UTC
Ripard Teg wrote:
I joked on Reddit about another issue that if you tell EVE players where the Line That Must Not Be Crossed is, they'll edge up to that Line naked until one butt hair is over the line, then do an obscene dance right there until that butt hair is lasered off, all the while protesting their innocence that they have not crossed the Line.


I have no view either way on the issue in the OP but that quote from Ripard really gave me a good laugh while being spot on accurate too:)

Bloody hell, another eve blog! http://johnnytwelvebore.wordpress.com

Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
#38 - 2015-09-16 08:58:29 UTC
Ripard Teg wrote:
I joked on Reddit about another issue that if you tell EVE players where the Line That Must Not Be Crossed is, they'll edge up to that Line naked until one butt hair is over the line, then do an obscene dance right there until that butt hair is lasered off, all the while protesting their innocence that they have not crossed the Line.
[...]

Uhm, Ripard, have you considered blogging again?
It seems a lot of your recent comments on here, Reddit or FHC start with "I joked on reddit [...]" or such, so why not write it all in one place? ;)
R17a
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
#39 - 2015-09-16 08:58:33 UTC
The crowd is traditionally requires the burning of witches. LolLolLol
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#40 - 2015-09-16 09:37:07 UTC
Announcing an investigation based on the flimsy evidence made public so far would be pretty stupid.

If it was anyone else doing this, I'd say they must have additional intel to justify this action.