EVE General Discussion

This is just CCP's latest long shot shiny thing that they are abandoning Eve for today.

It was Vampires before, Dust bunnies and now VR.

At some point the player base needs to realize we are simply funding The Next Best Thing™ at expense of our own entertainment.

PvE players represent 50% of all players. Then throw in 12% of players whose only reason to be in EVE is socializing. That's 62% of players who don't PvP and barely move out from highsec space -some don't even undock.

Do you see CCP spending anywhere close to 62% of their time and resources to preserve that crucial slice of their subscriber base? No way. The squeeky wheel gets the grease, and then the wagon crashes and burns when the other three wheels fall off...

Revise your numbers. Only 13.8% of logons participated in PVP, consensual or otherwise.

Some retards advised increase in system number. What we need is more pvp interaction, not vast emty spaces. Any kind of non-pvp activity and being stuck in it will get boring and repetitive. For some in 2 months and for some in 2 years. All changes can have that mindset in mind.

1) We need to decrease the amount of systems in null and wormholes. Especially half of j-space is empty. Should be like 40+ people living in per wh system.

2) This would increase the risk pve people take in wh and null pve. Balance it with more isk. The only real shot at iskmaking in amounts above 200m isk per hour per account should be in null and WH. Currently soloing FW missions pay 2-3 times more than soloing c4 sites, while the WH person should spend much more effort to establish, and should take much more risk (no local) to lose a much more expensive ship. That is so uncool. I am saying this as a person whose main income is FW missions.

3) Hisec: HS incursioning should be destroyed. All those people should be forced to move to null or wh if they wanna make stacks of money. HS should be for trading and learning. Nerf any activity that makes more than 100m with a single account in HS. I know more than half of Eve lives in Hisec. CCP will either be intimidated by this to not to nerf HS income, but really in the end if all a guy does in this game is HS missioning then he will be bored and leave the game sooner or later.

4) Lowsec should be cheap ships killing each other in high amounts. FW kind of accomplishes that but remove missions.

5) WH and Null should be for real money making, empire building and huge wars. I like trade hubs in wormholes but they need even more content. I liked this suggestion on reddit that WH signatures in or to j-space should be made easier to scan down. One 16 au scan and you should get above %75 for each so it is obvious that the sigs are WH. Other stuff can remain to be harder to scan. Someone else offered bastion mode for blops and nestor, in which they get a huge scanning bonus. That is another good idea. In general people's ability to reach to each other should be improved.

6) Thera is one of the best ideas in this game. Double the amount of wormholes in it. Basically, given how important the meta stuff is, any group should be able to attack any other easily. Thera provides a nice alternative to nicely balance the jump changes.

7) Nerf jump fatigue for covert ops ships. I get the motivation behind limiting the capability of fleets to jump around. But for covops crews there is no such worry. For them it just means less fun. Even 100 men blops fleets (which I havent seen any) ability to jump more freely will not abusively change the tide of any major war.

Well, thats OK, but you should accept that you should not be able to make the same amount of isk with people who actually take the risks that you don't want to. I am sure you too would agree that that is just fair. The people I meant who should be forced into null/wh are people who want to make dank isk. You making isk in hisec on a par with a Rattlesnake ratting anomalies in nullsec or in a c4 is not acceptable. You can still make your risk free isk in twice the time.

Meanwhile if you wanna make dank isk then you should be forced into null/wh. Some people will kill your ratting ships occasionally. This is good because you provide content for them. The difference between wh/null and hs should be lucrative enough to make up for it. That is my point.

Considering the age of this thread this game should already have negative numbers.

YES! You got it!
Too bad the game is still so young and won't possibly survive ten years of that! :/

That would support CCP Fozzie's statement that Low/Null population increased while HS dropped.

It would support CCP Quant's numbers about High Sec activities as well.

In a time when we should have been increasing naturally due to the time of year, we actually decreased further. We are now averaging 18.5 for the last two weeks, down from 20k.

1 more month for me, then it's sort of waste of time at this point in time. While I love the game, the decline is starting to affect me in negative ways and I dont like that.