EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

Pandemic Nihilist-Waffle Horde would be a pretty good alliance name tbh

anyone can look at ships fielded / bans used and see PL def has not alt teams Hydra on the hand has 3 ? :)

Risking of losing ~150b ship on a tourey, is one story.
Other story is to have clean advantage of other team, supposing that other team cant field AT reward ship.
So basicly if your making this thing even for all 64 team, AT ships should definitely be banned from tourney, or get their value higher.

Just to make one thing sure, we lost today to PL, they wiped us, not because of malices, but more because those BBs and officer Bhaal + they're piloting was perfect.
So my post is not about PL is gay, but about having AT tourney which is standalone event, to be even for every single team.

Thanks for actually saying that from the opposing team! I did enjoy flying the blackbird, cause 7+ years ago I started pvping as jamming pilot in a Blackbird.

If DT had alliance tournament ships they could have won their match.

lol

Nothin' else to add,
good luck in competition.

The real issue is the experience gap. As long as deeply experienced groups like PL are dominating the AT pubbie alliances like OP's will never win. Please help us CCP.

Risking lots of isk is one of the thimgs that makes the tourney great. Most pilots struggle with the prrssure of flying 50 billion isk ships. It keeps things exciting. Any serious team can afford what they need...but anybody with good skills should be abke to make top 5 without using anything terribly expensive.

^^ This.

The AT ships should have a higher point value then their normal ship classes.

A Ettana having the same point base of a Basilisk, or a Malice having the same point values of a Retribution is laughable.

People all saw the power of these ships yesterday on the Match between Camel and Exodus. The match was won because of the Malice.

It's easy to say that Exodus lost because they made the wrong choices, but go after a 50K EHP frig with very high resistence profile and a sig radius of less then 30m is very risky.

The question is that the same 50K EHP frig has a cost of 4 points the same of their counter parts the classic AF's when in reallity the only thing in common these ships have is the name "Assault Frigate".

You start to see a patern where the teams facing the teams that have access to AT ships have to ban them in order they can have some kind of chance to win. It's the 1st time we are watching bans to Malice's, Etana's, etc..., but there are much more out there.

Yes PL lost a Etanna yesterday, but they won the match easily. After Shadow cartel killed the Etana there weren't much more they could do. Their major DPS ships were dead already. TBH they couldn't do much more then go after that super Logi. The same super logi that costs 13 points, the same has a basilisk...

Yes PL lost a 150B ship but they are on the verge of collecting 50 more BPC's of an AT ship. If you have to lose a 150b ship to win 50 x 150B, that's a good deal.

The years pass and the problem is becoming bigger and bigger: only a few teams have access to these ships, these are starting to be fielded sooner and sooner during the qualifiers (we saw them in day 1 this year).

I'm not in favour of banning the ships. Everyone likes to see them fielded. But CCP really has to do something about their point cost over the other ships of the same class.

A Etana is milles away from a Basilisk, a Cambion is Milles away froma Hawk and so on. CCP should agravate the point cost for these ships and make this move quickly or the AT will become a farse.