EVE General Discussion

Nope, that would be fine. The problem is I doubt they'd do that. It's more likely to be like the new POS drop mechanics will be, where things appear in cans only you can find and access. The issue with that is the millions or billions of M3 worth of goods some of us have in stations to keep them stocked. Anything short of what you suggest and it will always be better to relocate to NPC null.

Like I said, we're not having fun on our own and if they keep letting us come up with 'metas' we wont.

We need to be forced to have fun, we need limitations.

I vote the quoted sentence to be the saddest ever to be posted on these forums :(

It would help if they'd turn on the windshield wipers every once in a while though.

This is what happens when you leave humans to their own devices.
Efficiency will always supersede fun. If you looks at nearly any game (especially mmos), early mystique and wonder pretty rapidly give way to min/maxing, theorycrafting, and in the case of Eve, metagaming on a ridiculously high level.

Those who do not adopt these things, quickly find themselves in the dustbin.
That's where fun in any sort of competitive game lands you.

It drove a lot of people to the game, who promptly left when they discovered that nullsec fights like that happen incredibly seldom because even in the days of BR-5 the vast majority of nullsec was blue to each other.

I didn't join because of some videos of big battles. I just know it means I'll be fodder/meatshield for X years until until I graduate to pee-on status. Seems like a job to me, but I can respect those who do it well. It probably took alot of time and effort to get to that point. I'd like to try null, but don't want to be a piddle-in-a-puddle. So it's off to lowsec for me it seems...

I joined because I get to be a *****, shoot at whoever/whatever I want, die alot and otherwise just enjoy laughing with other people who just want to have fun playing a game. Eve is awesome game, so I can't see all the complaining on the forums

I do hope you guys get things worked out though. Just do like I do and shoot everything! Way too much fun

Ultimately you can only lay so much blame at the feet of CCP for that.

This thread is wall-to-wall nullsec whining about how the game mechanics don't let them get the nullsec experience they want, but it just straight up does not seem like nullsec knows what it wants. CFC wax lyrical about how the new jump and sov mechanics are stagnating nullsec, while at the same time telling me "we can easily get around jump fatigue and new sov, we have the numbers to ignore them." People constantly whine about the fact that jump fatigue utterly stifles the possibility of warfare on the scale of BR-5 and how the new mechanics are even more hostile to small groups, yet at the same time make out like Pandemic Legion and other groups being able to deploy carriers to anywhere in the game within 15 minutes was somehow a good thing. You say people who can't defend what they own don't deserve to own it yet you're complaining more about solo interceptors with entosis links than you are about entire fleets. You say that entosis makes the game boring yet there wasn't a day that went by before Aegis' release when General Discusison did not have a thread whining about the tedium of nullsec structure bashing.

CCP has a habit of occasionally making utterly terrible decisions but one thing I've got to say in their defence is that for the sake of Christ, they're at least trying to get you bastards out of your coalitions and fighting over nullsec again. Team 5-0 is like the goddamn giant panda breeders desperately trying to work out what ridiculous combination of aphrodisiacs, niche pornography and low-grade toxins they need to pump into your cage to get you guys to make a move on each other. They're bound to make some ****-ups because you guys are actively resisting the process. Every change CCP makes is met with universal consternation and disdain, as if CCP have no clue what they're doing - of course they don't know what they're doing, how the hell would they know if you guys keep demanding something and do nothing with the tools they try to give you?

There are tens of thousands of subscribed players in nullsec. If you wanted war, there's nothing in the world bad game mechanics could do to stop you short of dropping all input from the F1 key. If you wanted an end to powerblocs and coalitions, you could voluntarily shut them down yourselves. If you wanted smaller organisations to have a chance you could stop pouncing on them at every opportunity. At any point you could simply decide you don't like the look of a neighbour's face and try to rearrange it.

I remain convinced that CCP could acquiesce to every demand a nullsec player has made since the release of Phoebe and you guys would still be sitting around wondering where the gudfites are.

Ive been running about, capping nodes all day long for 30 days and I have a feeling I did not advance anywhere. Still at no sov, no chance of success, no options in 0.0

1) small alliances cannot hold space long enough before some ceptor fleet passes by and drives you back to square one. Which kinda forces you to join a larger alliance / coalition, which pretty much gets you back into either RUS block, Goons, Darkness, NC. or a corp which will eventually be a pet cemetery.

2) someone wrote somewhere "..if you cant fight off a ceptor fleet, you dont deserve space...". well, about a week before the fozzie horsepooppeddling, we were about to take sov in 1 system. WHOOPEEEE for us, the small guys!!! Now? We cant take ****. Just run around and run and run and run.

3) running around in solo ceptors gets you killed. The only thing that seems interesting to me now is to fit out a dramiel, buff up the pod with speed boosts and run around chasing ceptors that are trying to cap nodes.

4) At this rate, I only see systems getting their iHubs to 4 in deep space regions. Now we as the small guys, can only bend over and find us a good fuckbuddy which will not **** us to the extreme and allow us some space in the ******** of the universe. Or we keep fighting the 500+ man alliances in the vicinity of the low sec borderlands and maybe, just ******* maybe, will we someday be able to fly cruiser / bc fleets and fight someplace for sov and giggles. .

At this point, low / hi sec seems like better space.

PS - ****, Im angry!!! Aaaaaaargh!!!!

You complained about structure grinding, so CCP removed it. Now you whine that you want it back.