EVE General Discussion

That's because we know exactly what would/will happen if/when sov stations are made destructible.
Everyone will just start keeping the majority of their **** in NPC stations.
Oh, and since there are VERY few close NPC stations, the east will likely become even more of a ghetto than it already is.

It's become a troll contest because sov has left the domain of alliance level game play to solo *insert small, fast ship here*. Make the attacker commit multiple ships and/or larger assets and you will begin to remove the ability to troll sov level game play. At least with a structure grind we got to see flashing lights and consumed ammo spurring the market, however little. I'm still using the same 10k stack of missiles I bought just before Fozzie sov hit because I haven't even needed to shoot other players!

To actually contribute to the discussion, grinding systems is boring. I can honestly say I never afk mined or ratted until fozziesov was introduced because I cant be arsed to grind up system after system. I'm waiting for the fun, cuz if you look at my KB, I haven't actually killed much in the times I've been able to make it to fleets since starting my new job. Chasing a ceptor who already has a 6 jump head start nor does grinding indices get my juices flowing to keep getting on and trying. And I am in no ways alone in this line of thinking.



If I can throw out my 2 cents on how to alter & improve the system:
-Structure HP brought back so players have something to shoot, even if it's not each other.
-Structures have 100% resistances
-Entosis now reduces resistances at some rate based on index level. Vice versa for defender.
-Multiple hostile entosis can be used to increase rate of decay. Vice versa for defender.
-Command nodes handled the same way but start at 50% HP and 0 "disruption"
--Hostile entosis increases "disruption" reducing resistances and remote rep effectiveness to the structure.
--Friendly entosis pauses Hostile Entosis cycles and/or reduces "disruption," but does not restore resistances - no bonus rep can be gained in such a way.
--Repping to 100% saves the node and locks invulnerability status.
--Destruction.. well destroys it.
--Nodes slowly generate HP on their own if left untouched to prevent nodes being left out for days at a time with nobody defending/attacking.
-Vulnerability timers go away. Structures can be hit at any time, any day and RF timers handled identically to Dominion.


There were no actual problems with Dominion sov. It was merely incomplete. Anyone here can tell you Dominion sov was said to have many more patches on the way to improve the QOL of the attackers and defenders, patches we never saw. The entosis link offers a chance to give a boost to the attacker in a quasi-Dominion-Fozzie sov. From there, the future structure patch can be part of the long promised additional features to holding sov.

EDIT- I realize my ideas benefit blobbing. But there is literally nothing you can do without implementing game breaking limitations that can not be done better by blobbing than by a smaller entity. The idea is to give then an opening, not hold the door open for them.

Not at all.
In fact, I think the better option for this iteration of sov would have been a marriage of Dominion sov, and Fozziesov. Basically, keep structure HP, but put it on a sliding scale based on how high the indexes are.

For some random numbers I am pulling out of my ass right this second:
Index 1: HP that could be chewed through in 5-10 minutes by 10 T1 cruisers (or equivalent).
Index 2: 15-20 minutes with 20-30 T1 cruisers (or equivalent).
Index 3: 20-30 minutes with 40-50.
Index 4: 20-30 minutes with 50-100.
Index 5: 20-30 with 150-200.
Index 6: Bring supers and dreads, or a really large poopsock.

its just plain bad, really really bad. id rather go back to 2005 sov and that was ****.

What if, the smaller entities became friends with each other so they can't get screwed over by the imperium? Sure they can pew pew each other but if they are actually being threatened by the imperium is BLUE TIME.

So you're saying that the "small guys" can't even be friends with their other "small guys" neighbors to save themselves even if an imperium blob is incoming to hellcamp them back to empire space?

And the "small guys" expect to actually take down a large group like the imperium by themselves this way?

More importantly, why would anyone want to live out of a player owned station if it could be blown up? I guarantee that if they ever put this in you'll see the whole of sov null relocate in and around NPC stations so we can base most of our stuff in indestructible stations yet still use sov space as we do now.

Chosing to not lose everything you own isn't risk aversion, it's common sense.

You can't ignore that the jump changes pretty much put the kibosh on the level of escalation that allowed those big newsworthy fights to happen.

Is it still technically possible to have another BR5? Yes. Is it going to happen again? Probably not, because it would be much more of a pain in the ass for both sides, unless it was pre arranged.

If they all start being blue, might as well be blue to people that can stop them from being owned, which isn't the other small guys...

People who live in wormhole space do this all the time. Are you essentially conceding that wormhole dwellers are less risk-averse and more committed to the spirit of EVE than nullsec dewllers? Because if so, I wholeheartedly agree.