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Share your experiences with Fozziesov!

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#301 - 2015-08-06 08:17:30 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:

Natural in EVE that everyone argues from the perspective of their own advantage.


Idk about you, but I honestly do not think the entire playerbase is incapable of objectivity. A large amount, certainly, but not all by any means.

But then, a thief will always be willing to believe that another man will steal, as it were.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Salvos Rhoska
#302 - 2015-08-06 08:27:03 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
But then, a thief will always be willing to believe that another man will steal, as it were.


Opportunity makes a thief of even the best of us.
Every man has their price.

Furthermore those in EVE with the naive notion that other men wouldnt, will be in for a sound reality check.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#303 - 2015-08-06 08:28:53 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:

Opportunity makes a thief of even the best of us.
Every man has their price.


Whoosh.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Salvos Rhoska
#304 - 2015-08-06 08:45:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:

Opportunity makes a thief of even the best of us.
Every man has their price.


Whoosh.


The legitimized conduct of CODE and its valiant moral defenders of the rights of innocent defenceless asteroids in HS not withstanding, ofc.

Rebound.
Swoosh.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#305 - 2015-08-06 08:48:10 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:

The legitimized morality of CODE and its valiant moral defenders of the rights of innocent defenceless asteroids in HS not withstanding, ofc.


Now I remember you. You're the fake lawyer, right? I had forgotten, for a moment I wasn't sure if you were actually this lacking in self awareness, or if I was just being trolled.

I am now no longer unsure.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Salvos Rhoska
#306 - 2015-08-06 08:49:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Now I remember you. You're the fake lawyer, right? I had forgotten, for a moment I wasn't sure if you were actually this lacking in self awareness, or if I was just being trolled.

I am now no longer unsure.


Boring ad hominem.

Seems your scars still run deep.

Anyways back to topic.
Fozziesov.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#307 - 2015-08-06 10:19:51 UTC
Just FYI, we have adapted. That's why we continue to own space. That doesn't stop us from pointing out how insanely boring the game mechanics we've had to adapt to are though. That's how developers get feedback to improve their game. If we all just got on with it in silence they'd never know the mistakes they make until it's too late to fix. It's not that we can't deal with trollceptors, but repeatedly doing so is dull.

And oh yeah, I remember you. Didn't you ragequit or something?

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Icycle
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#308 - 2015-08-06 10:48:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Icycle
Lucas Kell wrote:
Just FYI, we have adapted. That's why we continue to own space. That doesn't stop us from pointing out how insanely boring the game mechanics we've had to adapt to are though. That's how developers get feedback to improve their game. If we all just got on with it in silence they'd never know the mistakes they make until it's too late to fix. It's not that we can't deal with trollceptors, but repeatedly doing so is dull.

And oh yeah, I remember you. Didn't you ragequit or something?


You have adapter but like others, you left a lot of gaps, otherwise you would not be here complaining due to the continued herassment. I dont see why its boring ot pvp. Cos thats what you are saying. You are too bored to catch a "trollceptor".
Adapt further, move out or face the consequences. No one asked you to put strucutures in a space you dont live. Thats your fault! And if youa re too bored to chase after the "trollceptor" then maybe you should change profession.
Akballah Kassan
Flames Of Chaos
Great Wildlands Conservation Society
#309 - 2015-08-06 11:01:40 UTC
Lucas Kelly after reading that Space Monkeys have come to some kind of "let's fight but don't threaten sov" type agreement with your new small alliances neighbours in Cloud Ring your complaints about Fozziesov are meaningless.
Icycle
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#310 - 2015-08-06 11:11:08 UTC
Grouchy Smurf wrote:

So, why don't you capture them? The idea of FozzieSov is to allow small alliances to fight and control areas of space from larger entities. Something that couldn't be done with Dominion mechanics.
All those structures are open to capture, yet no small alliance has claimed them. And it makes no difference whatsoever to Imperium since the few members that live there still do their thing.


We dont capture them when you deploy the whole alliance to a system. I think in the past we have captured systems. The difference is you did not threw everything at us that time. We dont give you the good fight which translate to CFC as blobbing the hell of someone. We fight on our terms, not yours. Continue to blob us please. Isnt that time of the month yet? Blink
Icycle
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#311 - 2015-08-06 11:12:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Icycle
Akballah Kassan wrote:
Lucas Kelly after reading that Space Monkeys have come to some kind of "let's fight but don't threaten sov" type agreement with your new small alliances neighbours in Cloud Ring your complaints about Fozziesov are meaningless.


hypocracy and then complain why they are not having fun Lol
Damien Power
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#312 - 2015-08-06 11:15:59 UTC
I hate the Fossisov stuff.. I left nullsec because
1) the vulnerable times. Nothing really happens until the timer that was set begins but like mentioned before you get mostly trolls just being annoying and not really creating content.

Hardly anyone is active except a couple guys who are ratting/mining just to increase the timer.

And when I say active I'm talking about people who actually undock! Not have 30 to 80 online sitting in station because they logged in and went to work just to appear online and active.

You harldy have any big opps or even small opps in this case. Yea I can fly around hoping to find someone trolling your area
But that's boring!

I trained all my accounts to fly cap ships and now they don't even get used now!
Mostly because you see a system being entosed I guess you can say that Lol you fly to check the system
And like mentioned before they run away! It's hard to get people to want to roam in small fleets because the chances are high that all you will find is a ceptor or a tech1 destroyer and occasionally a small camp with a bubble maybe 2 to 3 guys at most. But those guys are only looking for single pilots to gank who aren't immune to bubbles.

All in all its boring .

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#313 - 2015-08-06 11:22:02 UTC
Icycle wrote:
You have adapter but like others, you left a lot of gaps, otherwise you would not be here complaining due to the continued herassment. I dont see why its boring ot pvp. Cos thats what you are saying. You are too bored to catch a "trollceptor".
Adapt further, move out or face the consequences. No one asked you to put strucutures in a space you dont live. Thats your fault! And if youa re too bored to chase after the "trollceptor" then maybe you should change profession.
Swing and a miss. Once again we are not talking about space we don't live in. Fozziesov is boring in space we do live in too. I'm guessing either english isn't your native language or you have sever memory issues, since we've covered this at least 10 times now.

Akballah Kassan wrote:
Lucas Kelly after reading that Space Monkeys have come to some kind of "let's fight but don't threaten sov" type agreement with your new small alliances neighbours in Cloud Ring your complaints about Fozziesov are meaningless.
*shrug* These things have always and will always happen. It's how we ensure there's content with groups when we don't want to mutually destroy each other or waste each other's time lasering structures back and forth. The other option of course would be we go full blue and then you lot would cry even more about the blue doughnut. You'd know that if you weren't led by someone with the social skills of a demented squirrel. It doesn't make the sov system any less terrible. If anything it's a sign that sov is a failure because we're having to go around it to create content.

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Icycle
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#314 - 2015-08-06 11:24:24 UTC
Damien Power wrote:
I hate the Fossisov stuff.. I left nullsec because
1) the vulnerable times. Nothing really happens until the timer that was set begins but like mentioned before you get mostly trolls just being annoying and not really creating content.

Hardly anyone is active except a couple guys who are ratting/mining just to increase the timer.

And when I say active I'm talking about people who actually undock! Not have 30 to 80 online sitting in station because they logged in and went to work just to appear online and active.

You harldy have any big opps or even small opps in this case. Yea I can fly around hoping to find someone trolling your area
But that's boring!

I trained all my accounts to fly cap ships and now they don't even get used now!
Mostly because you see a system being entosed I guess you can say that Lol you fly to check the system
And like mentioned before they run away! It's hard to get people to want to roam in small fleets because the chances are high that all you will find is a ceptor or a tech1 destroyer and occasionally a small camp with a bubble maybe 2 to 3 guys at most. But those guys are only looking for single pilots to gank who aren't immune to bubbles.

All in all its boring .



This is total bs. I dont want to be rude but there is no other way to say it. People are ratting and mining to make isk and not to increase the timers. You dont need that much effort to keep or increase the timers. If you really want to do that you can form a 100 man fleet and do it in two days to almost maxed out from almost zero. People are doing it for isk. To maintain an index level, you actually need very little activity. There are about 10 CFC renters in pure blind and they have max 5 people at a time in a system. They have kept the index up. If those renters can do it with 5 people surelly anyone can. Unless you are doing it wrong or the system is been constantly reinforced. Which has nothing to do with index level but more the inability to protect a system.
bumblesquat
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#315 - 2015-08-06 11:36:10 UTC
The entosis mechanic has just been blue ball after blue ball. Not yet had a single fight as a result of someone using an Entosis link. Pvp characters in fleet whilst i go off ratting with another alt. Hasn't slowed the isk making. Has just meant I've had to log on another character and fly him to a system to afk at a gate. And yes, lots more World of Warships.

If you want more high-sec players to come out to null, then i think you need to make null a greater place to live than high-sec. If your worried about vast groups owning too much space, then may some sort of limits on the amount of space a set number of accounts( not characters for obvious reasons) can hold - that being said, could mean more unused space so JB's can remain in place.

I don't think making Sov holders irritated by trolls is the way to create movement.

Albeit, it has been something to log on for, e.g. when Moa goes on a little roam, it gives the evil Goonies something to log on and play with. Ironically, i think Moa would do more damage to the CFC if they just stopped providing content.

I'd like to see a new power to grow to create another great war. Maybe creating an incentive to form new coalitions without benefiting the CFC.
Icycle
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#316 - 2015-08-06 11:36:27 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Swing and a miss. Once again we are not talking about space we don't live in. Fozziesov is boring in space we do live in too. I'm guessing either english isn't your native language or you have sever memory issues, since we've covered this at least 10 times now.


While english is not my first language, it does not have to do with memory issue. If I had memory issues I would not speak so many languages. Spanish, English, Russian, French and a bit of German.
Whats wrong with chasing a neutral ceptor? I know we do it all the time in our home. So why you complain about chasing out a neutral in your space specially when its in space you occupy. Why is this neutral ceptor hurting you so much? Why you find boring chasing after pvp ship? Or you dont like pvp?

Lucas Kell wrote:

*shrug* These things have always and will always happen. It's how we ensure there's content with groups when we don't want to mutually destroy each other or waste each other's time lasering structures back and forth. The other option of course would be we go full blue and then you lot would cry even more about the blue doughnut. You'd know that if you weren't led by someone with the social skills of a demented squirrel. It doesn't make the sov system any less terrible. If anything it's a sign that sov is a failure because we're having to go around it to create content.


I dont care about blue donut. Frantically for me its more targets. What bothers me is the people complain about not been able to shoot sothing or not been fun and then set blue donut half of null or set stupid rules what you can or cannot attack.
Why complain then. Need to shut up about it. Or change it. Or deploy to an enemy base but not sit your ass at home and complain. People like these are whiners and lazy and dont want to do anything for themselves.
Salvos Rhoska
#317 - 2015-08-06 11:39:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Lucas Kell wrote:
Just FYI, we have adapted.

And oh yeah, I remember you. Didn't you ragequit or something?


Good to hear you've adapted. Good for you, son.
Im sure you personally had a lot to do with that rather than whining on forums.

Cos whining repeatedly about a disposable frigate annoying and upsetting an organisation of thousands of players in control of most of known space sort of gave an opposite impression, if you know what I mean.

No, I didnt ragequit.
Returned to studies warm with victory for a bit.

Thought you did, though.
Avanda Redblade
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#318 - 2015-08-06 11:48:46 UTC
Scalding Holland wrote:
All sovereignty changes CCP have introduced since POS claimship have ruined this game. EVE has some realism under POS warfare. This nonsense with anomalies and beacons popping up for us to sit around hours to capture is killing the game.

Notwithstanding the possibility of this being a troll, there must be at least a tiny element of truth in this as so many ex-nullies have migrated to wormhole life where POS establishment and destruction defines the "sovereignty" of a wormhole system in a true sandbox style.

Got to love the purity.
Icycle
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#319 - 2015-08-06 11:53:00 UTC
Avanda Redblade wrote:
Scalding Holland wrote:
All sovereignty changes CCP have introduced since POS claimship have ruined this game. EVE has some realism under POS warfare. This nonsense with anomalies and beacons popping up for us to sit around hours to capture is killing the game.

Notwithstanding the possibility of this being a troll, there must be at least a tiny element of truth in this as so many ex-nullies have migrated to wormhole life where POS establishment and destruction defines the "sovereignty" of a wormhole system in a true sandbox style.

Got to love the purity.


People moved to wormhole cos its easy isk. Also a lot of isk and they do provide a lot of pvp too. So you get best of both. In null you have to abide by all the blue donuts. I think soon you may have the same with whs. There are a lot of wh entities that are setting each other to blue now.
Salvos Rhoska
#320 - 2015-08-06 12:01:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
WHs are imo one of CCPs crowning and finest achievements.

Really outstanding work and design.
Perhaps because they didnt have to compromise with existing power blocs of interest.
But aside from that speculation, its excellent lateral thinking in action that Id like to see more of.

I think migration to them is more an issue of the whole hole (pun intended) concept being so functional, than it is of Sov problems.
Perhaps thats a glass half full attitude, but I thinknits warranted.