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Playing on limited time/ Older gamers. How do you play??

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#81 - 2015-07-29 20:13:49 UTC
One type of content seriously missing from EVE are large scale projects which can be forwarded in small irregular increments.

The instance I use are hobbies like building a wooden ship scale model. They are very time intensive projects, but most tasks can be forwarded in less than an hour.

Of course, part of the fun is in that nobody will come and smash it with a hammer the minute you're away. As un-EVE-ish as this is, I think it would be wise to give busy family men a mean to set and achieve long term goals in EVE, by working on them in a casual, irregular schedule.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
#82 - 2015-07-29 21:26:57 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
One type of content seriously missing from EVE are large scale projects which can be forwarded in small irregular increments.

The instance I use are hobbies like building a wooden ship scale model. They are very time intensive projects, but most tasks can be forwarded in less than an hour.

Of course, part of the fun is in that nobody will come and smash it with a hammer the minute you're away. As un-EVE-ish as this is, I think it would be wise to give busy family men a mean to set and achieve long term goals in EVE, by working on them in a casual, irregular schedule.

That would be a cool thing. Especially if, one day, they introduce player-owned stargates
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#83 - 2015-07-29 22:03:48 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
One type of content seriously missing from EVE are large scale projects which can be forwarded in small irregular increments.

The instance I use are hobbies like building a wooden ship scale model. They are very time intensive projects, but most tasks can be forwarded in less than an hour.

Of course, part of the fun is in that nobody will come and smash it with a hammer the minute you're away. As un-EVE-ish as this is, I think it would be wise to give busy family men a mean to set and achieve long term goals in EVE, by working on them in a casual, irregular schedule.


Agreed

Right now I am low on gaming time due to my job being in flux and it strangling my free time atm iwill probably just be log in Eve while playing other games for a fix.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#84 - 2015-07-29 22:15:02 UTC
Imagine CCP didn't screwed up WiS and implemented the (supposedly) modular interiors for CQ. Just on a "home station" scale. Buy a slot in your favorite station, set up your home, and decor it with anyhting from tapestries to frozen corpses.

Impact on other players? Null (minus the frozen corpses part). Thus it can be allowed to be as large and expensive and time consuming as needed, just for the sake of giving a cosmethic layer to something already existant, aka undestructible storage in NPC stations.

High retention, endless chances for monetization, all would be good...

It could be another EVE. One that wasn't condemned to replay itself over and over again -Soveriengty 3, then Incursions 2, then Apochrypha 2...

(Dammit, EVE it's becoming Hollywood! All sequels, adaptations and franchises! Lol )

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2015-07-29 22:31:51 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Quote:
Playing on limited time/ Older gamers. How do you play??
Being an old fashioned guy, I use the joystick from my Atari 2600.

I've heard that the combination of a mouse and a keyboard is superior but I just don't believe it.

Mr Epeen Cool


So not only are not a part of the Logitech Masterrace, your not even part of PC Masterrace? Im so dissapointed in you Mr Epeen. Where have all my hero's gone?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#86 - 2015-07-29 22:34:55 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Imagine CCP didn't screwed up WiS and implemented the (supposedly) modular interiors for CQ.


There was no way for them to not screw up Space Barbies. It's not just the execution that was flawed, it was a bad idea at the conceptual level.

ANYTHING they did that ignored the base game for so long was a net negative for EVE Online, no matter what they did with it.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Barrak
The Painted Ones
#87 - 2015-07-29 22:43:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrak
Hey,

Just turned 40, married, two kids, we had a dog (sadly it died two days ago..... man... that just fu*%ing hurts!!)

EvE for me has always been more than just logging in. For whatever reason I love all the 3rd party stuff. I love EvEMon, EFT, blogs (giving some old love to the K162 blog (again!)).

So, if I get a spare 10-15mins or so I generalyl gravitate towards the above, thus getting my EvE 'fix'.

However I will generally jump on at around 21.30-22.00 when the Mrs and I have watched our TV show for the evening. I will then play till around 00.00.

Currently I'm trading and am about to dump Barrak here into Lowsec for some solo/small gang stuff.

I've always found that the best way to play this game on a limited budget of time is to do solo stuff..... now... I hasten to add that this doesnt mean you have to play the game solo, you just do solo stuff.

I'm still part of a corp (though I will have to drop that), and I am in the chat channels. I am always chatting with my current/old corpies but I will generally fly solo.

Like someone else said on the front page, a little prep can work wonders for those with limited time to play!

Barrak

O7
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#88 - 2015-07-30 06:43:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Imagine CCP didn't screwed up WiS and implemented the (supposedly) modular interiors for CQ.


There was no way for them to not screw up Space Barbies. It's not just the execution that was flawed, it was a bad idea at the conceptual level.

ANYTHING they did that ignored the base game for so long was a net negative for EVE Online, no matter what they did with it.


It never was "WiS or spaceships". It was "new stuff to draw players in or endless fixing of broken sh*t and going nowhere with demographics".

It was WiS as could have been player structures or player buit stargates to new sectors of space.

CCP had more resources back then, and even now they're not focusing in EVE alone. So it was not a competition for resources, but a way to understand development which turned sour when they underdelivered Incarna.

So they stopped daring and became too afraid to do *anything* outside of the narrow box of the long-term subscribers.

So instead of Daring 1.0, we've got Fixing 15.0, Nerfing-Rebalancing 20.0 and Sovereignty 3.0; and we are on our way to Incursions 2.0 and are supposed to be ecstatic about the coming of Apochrypra 2.0.

All things already done before and with the Old Farts' Seal of Approval.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Shawn Tivianne
Mining.Pirates
#89 - 2015-07-30 17:53:17 UTC
Maybe i'll become a pirate in lowsec and see how low I can get my sec rating :-)
Rawthorm
The Establishment
#90 - 2015-07-31 09:40:55 UTC
Since my first attempt at quitting the game didn't work out for me, I've just had to adapt the way I play. A mix of RL considerations and quite frankly a lack of anything remotely interesting to do within EvE means that I've just broken down my EvE time into optimized little fragments that I can do as and when required. (Yes I know, if it's boring I should quit but I still hold out hope that one day EvE will have a resurgence and I'll be in a stronger place to take advantage of that as a player when it does.)
Essentially I have a window of time in the mornings while I'm having my coffee and watching the news to keep my industry ticking over. Outside of this, if time presents itself I pick one of my little fragments and run with it.

I spent the last few years making sure my accounts have 3 useable characters on them. For any 1 sub, 3 options. This means that for example my accounts may have 1 industry, 1 PvE and 1 PvP highly focused character on them, all seeded in the areas I operate in for each task. By cutting the need to move about the galaxy I literally can log on, choose the right character, get right into whatever I want to do and log off again. By cutting out all the time sinks like travel what little time I have goes to good use.

Still all that being said, it sure would be nice if there were more personal long term goals in EvE.
Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#91 - 2015-07-31 16:11:20 UTC
Shawn Tivianne wrote:
So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. Big smile


Hey Shawn,

Might I suggest you have a look at my venture called Hub Zero,

Hub Zero Thread

I'm 37 myself and wanted to create a blue community in NPC 0.0 where people can come and get involved in operations that are happening within the local area. Some of the focus is about keeping the area safe and once we have more numbers we will have people organising their events and inviting people from the blue community. I think a setup like this would suit you, if we can get lots of people contributing I'm pretty sure we will have an interesting experience.

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

Rhohan
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#92 - 2015-07-31 18:21:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhohan
Ah yes, Eve Online, the game that promises to be so much more.. Someday
I play in sprints.

I normally play during the fall/winter several days a week, then take the next 8-9 months off to focus on other things.
This ensures the game stays fun, and it doesn't become a second job.

The only issue with this in when your friends decide to move when you're afk for 6 months and you got 20 odd doctrine ships now in hostile space.
Having a trickle NPC logistics system would be nice for those of us who play eve on a more recreational basis.
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#93 - 2015-07-31 19:04:47 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
1-2 hours sounds like plenty to me, even if it's just per month. It's not a race, and tbh I look on people playing for 10 hours a day with some disapproval if they try make it look normal and talk down to everyone else. It's not and they'll burn out faster than people who manage their time. There aren't many people who have been playing for 5+ years who have maintained consistent activity to that degree (and those who have are gibbering loonies who were 11 when they first subbed, and still are). This myth that EvE is only for hardcore nerds willing to commit to x hours per day is a problem and needs to be demolished.

Clearly you are not a "real" gamer and are a disgrace to true EVE players. Real gamers, wear a cathetar and a diaper and the only time they stop playing before 10 hours is if their house burns or PC breaks. Stopping for sex or a choking family members is a clear sign of an uncommitted pilot. I once played for 42 hours non stop and only quit when the store I was in cut the power while I was testing one of their new rigs...
pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#94 - 2015-07-31 19:37:42 UTC
Shawn Tivianne wrote:
So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. Big smile


My rl sounds similar to yours.....I log in find fights and log off....if I don't find any, so what.

It will also sometimes entice me to take a fight I won't always win.....but that is on you.

I'm definitely going to say that I plex my isk.....so if you don't have it like that, you may need a different play style.
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#95 - 2015-07-31 19:46:07 UTC
I'm 58, married 37 years in October. Have a wife who games with her own rig. No kids to pester us.... I can play for hours if I like, but mostly just sit in Amarr, spin ships and chat. Haven't undocked my main in 3 years, far too much nerfing of everything good but I don't want to quit.
Maybe someday things will change...
Labaianoch
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2015-07-31 20:00:07 UTC
BrundleMeth wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:
1-2 hours sounds like plenty to me, even if it's just per month. It's not a race, and tbh I look on people playing for 10 hours a day with some disapproval if they try make it look normal and talk down to everyone else. It's not and they'll burn out faster than people who manage their time. There aren't many people who have been playing for 5+ years who have maintained consistent activity to that degree (and those who have are gibbering loonies who were 11 when they first subbed, and still are). This myth that EvE is only for hardcore nerds willing to commit to x hours per day is a problem and needs to be demolished.

Clearly you are not a "real" gamer and are a disgrace to true EVE players. Real gamers, wear a cathetar and a diaper and the only time they stop playing before 10 hours is if their house burns or PC breaks. Stopping for sex or a choking family members is a clear sign of an uncommitted pilot. I once played for 42 hours non stop and only quit when the store I was in cut the power while I was testing one of their new rigs...


Anyone else tired of the term "Gamer" being used like an occupational description? I'll never forget working for a cable/internet provider and having customers call and tell me "Well, I'm a gamer, so..." SO???? Congrats on being useless?

Every time I heard someone talk like that I would roll my eyes so hard they almost left my skull.
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#97 - 2015-07-31 23:02:31 UTC
58 Membership Chairman for a CPC EDA in Canada, like to try my hand in running a corp, time limited ATM due to election, but after I want to do this so more time I'll have, I hope. Ratted in low sec for years, I want to lead a PvP fleet for the fun of it.Blink

Empire, the next new world order.

Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#98 - 2015-07-31 23:19:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Johan Civire
Log in set skills log out next month see login in and logout again. I do not play eve anymore like i do before all those great new well change let me put it like that, is stopping me. The can not going back and there vision is out of focus.

Eve is just for me a SP counter and if the are going to falling down the hill i`m going to sell this account for a great price before the going to (FTP mode or pull the plug) And lets hoop that will never happens and the going to correct it.

So i can play the game again what it was. I hate casual gaming mode or arcade mode. Stop making eve in to it. Thats the reason i quit wow.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#99 - 2015-08-01 08:00:09 UTC
Shawn Tivianne wrote:
So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. Big smile



Piracy is your future haven my friend.

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP

Shawn Tivianne
Mining.Pirates
#100 - 2015-08-01 12:46:00 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Shawn Tivianne wrote:
So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. Big smile



Piracy is your future haven my friend.


I know. I think it seriously might be. Logged on last night with my null sec corp. Guys said we were going to get together for a lowsec roam. I was ready in 5 mins. In my ship, in the start location. Then as i wait almost an hour later, after much talking and fitting thier ships and bsing about what modules to fit and looking at prices. I was only going to be on another 20mins, i basically just said forget it. Logged into my alt and did some exploring for 20 mins.

I dont have time to be working with other peoples schedules. Especially kids who dont have work in the morning and much to worry about other that shooting ships.