Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Technically, Ishtar on 'Augmented' Ogres can (should I say "could"?) reach 900dps in drones alone. Fitting guns... guns won't fit without some gimping to drones.
If you properly set up your orbit, most of the battleships will be inside it, almost NO travel time, the rest - just blap it first at the spawn point before there's any travel involved.

There are 2 problems here:
1) Outside of thermal/kinetic pirate factions, the damage drops really far.
2) With this change, sentry dominix is dead for PvE, because it falls below the gap with non-thermal/kinetic drones.
So, as usual, gewns are not really nerfed, it's the rest of eve who's dps is going to drop below the gap.

Ah. A typical super-bling fit and super-bad too. You wont survive the first damage burst in many sites. Even in gurista space ( worse in any other space ). You can't even do a simple 5/10 serpentis with it.

I like how this went from discussion about the changes of the Ishtar to crying about PVE which is very rarely considered for balance changes.

man, that's not really a working fit, like your geckos will get the agro more times than not so you will need to recall them to give just one example... like i said, why ppl argue about things they don't really understand?
but well...

I do think that Ishtar and drones should be nerfed, but you guys miss the main point: if we remove sentries from Ishtar, that will leave it with no ranged weapon. You can load ranged ammo into guns, so you should be able to choose drones too.
I believe we should start with making ewar against ship affect drones, e.g. you get jammed, drones can't shoot, you get tracking disrupted, drones tracking go down. We can also limit ishtar's ability to move away from drones. For example: you get away more than xx (not 70!) km, you lose control over drones.

I ask again - why not stagger sentry firing times, making them more of a DPS weapon than an alpha weapon?

They have changed changes multiple times based upon feedback after testing was done on sisi.

i really think the ishtar needs a smaller drone bay, its the same size as the geddon and much larger than an eos.... how can anyone possibly defend this?

DDA nerf?

Haven't we already run the Thanatos into the ground enough? This, if my math is correct, will take over 100 dps away from my thanatos.

EDIT: SiSi is showing 189dps loss on my thanatos.

This. I want my AF AB bonus back....it got lost somewhere on a Sisi mirror long ago.


That and when (not if) this balance does not solve the issue ccp has some thing to ponder really.


I swear CCP has some prior military working for them, possible Marine Corps. They love their group punishment for 1 or 2 problem children. PFC X is a screw up and did something stupid, again. Lets make the whole company or squadron pay for it.
Used to work in the old days, give pfc X a wall to wall counseling or blanket party, usually got his head and his ass wired right again.

If this what CCP someone (or someones) is going off of...this has changed. These days even good ole sandbag party (have the tard fill up sandbags and stack em until you get bored watching them) will get you as the NCO charged for hazing. Saw this as I left the Marines as a Sergeant....apparently lots of tards want paperwork that follows them their whole career vice a couple hour sand bag session that when done leaves no paper trail.


Nerfing DDA not the solution. Not when the problem ships have bonuses that offset them.

I recall CCP's stance on domi and Ishtar when this started. They said they finally got drones as a primary weapon. Which it did kind of need. If this is the spirit of the keeping some things in place (problem child ship bonuses) they are making the exact opposite happen. They are killing drones for the rest of us.

I am eyeing the demise of even sentry rattler. A drone boat ffs. All these tweaks....just not in my mind worth the aggravation of baby sitting them. Heavy rattler being eyed so I get a lot of mobility back. Hell if the tracking mods work well...the rattler could go almost pure missile. maybe a DDA for light/mediums to kill frigs faster.