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Dev blog: The Dominix, Work In Progress And A New Art Director

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Akira Kata
AkiCo LLC
#41 - 2015-06-19 15:37:06 UTC
Bentakhar wrote:
...i suppose it's way too late to add more engines on the domi? look at the brutix's myriad of awesome engines! the domi looks like it couldn't actually move much.


Have you flown a Domi? They are slower than snot off a vacuum-frozen corpse... but that's ok given their drone-boat role. They don't need to be nimble. The update very nicely accentuates the ship's lines while retaining the classic profile. Less potato but still recognizable as a Dominix.

I really like the Minnie updates to the probe and stiletto, but agree with those saying the thrasher lacks the original's menacing feel. IMO, this update looks more like an EW platform vs. a thrasher coming to light you up.

Congrats CCP Jörg on your new position!
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#42 - 2015-06-19 15:37:42 UTC  |  Edited by: MeBiatch
Sarmatiko wrote:
Dominix, Stiletto, Probe redesigns - awesome!
Thrasher redesign is rather controversial. Minmatar have other ships that require redesign ASAP - fugly low-poly stern Rupture, for example.


just make the rupture look even more like a Galleon

give the damn thing sails... Minmatar due use sails... and retractable gun ports on the sides...

oh and please some sort of space plank

and the most important part is some sick awesome looking carving at the front of the ship...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Danmal
TYR.
Exodus.
#43 - 2015-06-19 15:51:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Danmal
First, I agree w/ previous. Domi, Stiletto, Probe good. The Thrasher is a mess. I hope that's you throwing us a bone, so the community can feel we actually contributed.

Second I will say is I hope somebody keeps track of consistency within race and difference between races other than the color coding. If a ship looks like it could be any arbitrary race (keyword: crucifier), then what's the point.

Lastly, I am not a fan of the recent symmetry and starwarsi-/startrekization initiatives that characterize many of the recent designs. Ships used to be quirkily different from other games, and that was better so. And yes, I do want my old Fleet Phoon back, oh, and the Tristan. Thank you.
Azahar Ortenegro
Seashells and Fireflies
#44 - 2015-06-19 15:52:57 UTC
Trash those ideas of yours of a Minmatar redesign, because the results are ugly.
Jebidiah Forge
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2015-06-19 16:03:49 UTC
That thrasher looks awesome.
And the stiletto and probe are nicely done too.
I like this direction of the Minmatar ships.
stoicfaux
#46 - 2015-06-19 16:08:00 UTC
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If you missed it, you cna take a look a...

Goddammit. cna? CNA? Quit making things look so damn different!

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Tau Onyeka
Krusual Syndicate
#47 - 2015-06-19 16:09:57 UTC
I'm on the fence with the Thrasher, it's not "terrible" but I feel there's better ways to do it.

On that note: years ago someone made a new look for the Tempest and to this day that thing haunts me, no longer the whole "scaffolding" look but very sleek and focussed, a very strong design language. As we have a new art director and as they're redoing Minmatar, please check this out and see if something like that (not just for the Tempest but for Minmatar as a whole) would be an option.
Irregessa
Obfuscation and Reflections
#48 - 2015-06-19 16:14:16 UTC
Probe looks like a kestrel. Are the Minmatar taking design lessons from the Caldari now?
Chasin Munny
Ashenaura Shipyards
#49 - 2015-06-19 16:18:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Chasin Munny
Dominix - hell yah! The design concepts on the Thrasher, however, look and feel too much like some of the newer Caldari models.
SilentAsTheGrave
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2015-06-19 16:25:20 UTC
CCP Jörg needs to make a post in here already so I can give him a like! Big smile
Acel Tokalov
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2015-06-19 16:26:13 UTC
Love the new look for the Domi, Stiletto, and Probe, the profile on the new Thrasher looks weird and most of the concepts for it look way too blocky and actually looks a bit more like a Caldari ship than a Minmatar one. It could use a visual upgrade but you should try and keep more of the current profile similar to the Dominix rework instead of overhauling the look so extensively.

The Stiletto and Probe on the other hand are amazing and I can't wait to fly them, the Minmatar frigates and cruisers have needed a visual overhaul for a long time and I am happy that they are finally getting the attention that they deserve. I can't wait to see more like these.
Kismeteer
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#52 - 2015-06-19 16:29:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Kismeteer
Sorry, I hate the Stiletto. I fly them often, and already like how they look, which is like a mosquito (with double wings like a dragonfly). The new one looks more like a single wing dragonfly.

The domi looks amazing, and I'm mixed on the thrasher.
Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2015-06-19 16:31:01 UTC
Why are you redesigning ships that don't need to be redesigned?

Domi? Fair enough
Stilleto? Fair enough
Thrasher? NO! THRASHER IS FINE!
Osprey - in dire need of a redesign
Atron - in dire need of a redesign

Its a fine design on its own, but if you have to use it for something, use it for the Talwar, not the Thrasher
Lexiana Del'Amore
Nouvelle Rouvenor
#54 - 2015-06-19 16:33:36 UTC
LEAVE THE THRASHER ALONE !!!
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#55 - 2015-06-19 16:36:47 UTC
New Domi.... about time. New Atron? WHERE IS THE NEW SEXY ATRON WE WERE SHOWN YEARS AGO!?!?!!

That Thrasher... ill be honest, Its not my favorite. Too much of a departure from the original for my taste. But whatever.. ill still fly it. Ill miss my baby Cyclone.

Anyways, Farewell and o7 CCP Huskarl and Good Luck with your new position CCP Jörg!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Nijaza
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2015-06-19 16:55:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Nijaza
Fly almost exclusively Minmatar, so I am happy to see them get the same attention I thought that the only the caldari were getting. I do like bold new look, as your putting it, however I do think that thrasher design would be wasted on the thrasher itself. The thrasher is fine as is, maybe could use a bit of polish, but not all that. What SHOULD be artistically redone, in my opinion, are Rupture, Scythe, and Burst.

FRankly, the celestis and imicus need more attention as well before the thrasher, but strictaly Minmatar, the Rupture has needed a redesign for a long time, the likes of what he Moa went through , vaguely keep the brick shape, but shine that sucka up PLEASE. Lastly, as one of my fav solo pvp ships, the scythe fleet issue, or ,scythe in general, could use a better design. Those exposed pipes along side it's backbone have always bugged me. Thrashers fine, fix these ones first!Big smile
Cleanse Serce
Lonesome Capsuleer
#57 - 2015-06-19 17:01:41 UTC
Oh god as much as i love the design path you're taking please, please, please, do not cut Thrasher's head. The overall is really nice, but why did you chop off its head ?
Picture B of Variation exploration is much more better than the one in the redesign picture.
Give its head back ! xD

I was hopping you would re-design the Basilisk soon though. :(
Rionan Nafee
#58 - 2015-06-19 17:04:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Rionan Nafee
Thank you very much for your great work CCP Huskarl und my best wishes for you future! o7

Congratulations CCP Jörg and good luck at your new task.


As Minmatar Fan I am very interested in the new Minmatar designs.
The new Stilettor looks ... very interresing.
I am not sure what I should think about the new Probe. This design looks more like a redesigned Reaper rookie ship. No big iconic sail. I am very skeptical.

The new Thrasher - NO WAY! Shocked
Where is the brawny and bulky appearance? Where are the iconic shark gills like solar panels? Too much thiny angled details ...
No, i don't like the new concepts at all.


btw.
The Hecate looks amazing! Big smile
I hope you don't screw the look with crude animations.
Evelgrivion
State War Academy
Caldari State
#59 - 2015-06-19 17:21:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Evelgrivion
I really like the current design of the Thrasher, but the redesign is generally good too. One pet peeve though, there's nothing less high-tech looking than sci-fi ships with bell nozzles styled like the Space Shuttle's Main Engines. Those things were designed in the 1970s to function at sea level and in vacuum, and they look it. Eve Online's rectangular engine housings look much better (and more futuristic!) for the game's aesthetic, in large part because the nature of their functionality isn't immediately clear. Space Shuttle engines, which are a known technology, aren't a good fit for New Eden.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#60 - 2015-06-19 17:21:20 UTC
If you're gonna redo the thrasher use one of these concepts http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67315/1/75_THRASHER_VARIANTS.jpg

The rest barely even look Minmatar.

The Drake is a Lie