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Dev blog: The Dominix, Work In Progress And A New Art Director

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#21 - 2015-06-19 14:51:35 UTC  |  Edited by: War Kitten
Obidiah Kane wrote:
Ignore this neophobia - roll out the new Minnie hulls! Cool


Except the Thrasher. Don't use that one.

Because it is ugly.

Edit: Honestly, if you want to rework the Thrasher, that's cool - but stick with its iconic design features and improve them. The nose and the wingy gills are awesome. You can't just throw that away.

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-06-19 14:52:07 UTC
o7 Huskarl :)
Nissui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2015-06-19 14:57:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Nissui
I think the Stilleto concept is outstanding and really makes the T2 stand apart from the Slasher. Slashers were already very pared down, and this refines the profile to an extreme. I would love to fly that hull.

The Probe also looks good, and I'd be interested to see the Cheetah variation as well as I use both. I like that it retains its asymmetry and its shark fin, though perhaps it should retain a single sail as the 'tower' gives it a strong resemblance to the Reaper, as others have mentioned. Nice work and look forward to see this developed more.

The Thrasher... did not need a redesign IMO. The design currently slated also does not resemble a combat vessel to me, but a modular multipurpose hull. It's in interesting ship, just doesn't feel like a Thrasher. There are designs among the Thrasher concepts such as H, I, or J which look more solid and aggressive as a 'destroyer'.
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#24 - 2015-06-19 15:00:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix Jones
CCP: they are still mad at us... Quick, dangle the Dominix Redesign Carrot.

Edit (seems like they are actually doing it)

Yaay!!!!

Callic Veratar
#25 - 2015-06-19 15:04:35 UTC
I love the probe and stiletto designs. No so big on the thrashers. A rework of the existing design would be fantastic: the top middle of this one is really good. For the other more radical designs, replace the awful Talwar model with something similar to h, k or j from here.
Bentakhar
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2015-06-19 15:06:39 UTC
yay!! finally the dominix change!! Looks like you made it a little too wide at the top front there on the 3D model in white... compared to the concept art which was a bit thinner and more aesthtecially pleasing.

Also i suppose it's way too late to add more engines on the domi? look at the brutix's myriad of awesome engines! the domi looks like it couldn't actually move much.

Anyway...

I love the new minmatar direction , its a bit daring but looks fresh And that artist is really really talented and designed the best looking ships in eve so far! Altho i feel like the concept art for the thrasher would be more suited for a Battlecruiser size ship (cyclone perhaps). espacially if you compare with the hecate, which beyond looking really uninspired (enough with the WWII references pleeeeeease) also looks like it could be a drone in terms of scale!!!

to sum up: SCALE COHERENCE

Also it is true that the thrasher is an iconic ship. maybe that redesign is a bit too far. I would also like to point out that it would be great if the redesigns were made taking a bit more race coherence into account...
the new Chimera and Jackdaw look like they belong alongside a rokh, corax or a naga ... but the minmatar have a bit too many styles

> the carrier look: nid, hel, typhoon
> the sailboat look: probe, stiletto, velator, scythe
> the wingy vertical look: maelstrom, tornado, naglfar, tempest
> the thrasher look: thrasher , cyclone
> the wtf ugly look: loki and both Tech3 and Tier3 destroyer
> etc...

to sum up: STYLE COHERENCE



>>>> tldr; to sum up the sum ups: good job on all the new designs (except the hecate) but make sure to keep SCALE and STYLE coherent trhoughout races and ships.

Also the most urgent redesigns are the CELESTIS and IMICUS. They are a disgrace to the beauty of Eve and not worthy of receiving our excess pod fluids.
Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
#27 - 2015-06-19 15:07:00 UTC
The important question is: now that Eve Online has a new art director, does this mean we will see pink ships in space?

The Nosy Gamer - CCP Random: "hehe, falls under the category: nice try, but no. ;)"

Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#28 - 2015-06-19 15:07:23 UTC
The Stilletto looks great,
the Probe looks a bit much like the Reaper (not that it's a bad thing),
the Dominix obviously looks good (not different to the current, just better --the way it should be).

The Thrasher.... really doesn't need a redesign.
And it definitely SHOULD NOT be given the same design-style as the Caldari redesigns. Those concepts are absolutely unnecessarily complex, and far too 'techy,' say, for Minmatar.

Take more inspiration from the current, MINMATAR style.
Not just any random design with flappy solar panels.


Those are my thoughts, anyway.
Helen Grapes
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2015-06-19 15:09:12 UTC
This isn't THE THRASHER! This is a half destroyed Badger.
You've already ruined the Reaper, just leave Mins alone!
Michael Pawlicki
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry.
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#30 - 2015-06-19 15:12:40 UTC
I like the way things are going in terms of the ship designs. As long as the Minmatar redesigns look like hatred incarnate I'm good.
Vesan Terakol
Trollgrin Sadface
Dark Taboo
#31 - 2015-06-19 15:14:15 UTC
Those are all absolutely gorgeous!

IMO, the thrasher has a pretty up to date look and did not need much work, unlike some other Minmatar ships, that haven't aged well - like the Vigil or the Rupture (as iconic as it is, the model's age has been made even more apparent by the new shaders).

Awesome work! Keep it up!
Nagarythe Tinurandir
Einheit X-6
Ushra'Khan
#32 - 2015-06-19 15:16:18 UTC
o7 Huskarl

Redesigns good, except the Thrasher. Its model is one of the better looking, despite its age, and it fits nicely with all the new models already redesigned.
There are a lot of ships that need the treatment much more urgently (Imicus/Helios, Celestis/T2Variants or Bellicose/T2Variants, if you wanna stick to Minmatar).
Lord Echon
Star-Crossed Enterprises
#33 - 2015-06-19 15:20:56 UTC
The new Minmatar designs are a big improvement on the current ones, except for the trasher. You need to start over on that one.
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#34 - 2015-06-19 15:27:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Milton Middleson
The Thrasher is iconic, and is already one of the best looking ships in the game. The 'gills', frontal profile, etc... are very reminiscent of a shark or a piranha or something else aquatic and predatory. You get the idea. I'm not opposed to tweaking the model, but it ought to retain the essential character. The proposed redesign looks like you fired magnet through a scrapyard. Even the junkiest looking Minmatar ships still look engineered.

edit: except the Burst, but 'looks more like the Burst' is not a positive commentary on something's appearance.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#35 - 2015-06-19 15:28:46 UTC
Unless you are planning to give us a patch where we can land on a planet's surface then you don't need to make every ship look like an aeroplane / glider. (Stilletto, Probe and Hecate)

The thrasher design is needlessly complex.

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Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#36 - 2015-06-19 15:28:58 UTC
No mention of the suggested griffin model from the community?

Be careful with the probe, it looks close to the reaper

Be careful with the thrasher, its a bit too caldari-like.

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Bariolage
Control F9
#37 - 2015-06-19 15:29:03 UTC
The WIP painted thrasher looks great. The re-imagining feels as bold and risky as Minmatar should feel. I like the direction Minmatar is slowly taking on with highly varied hulls. So many little details to look at and pour over.
Aeril Malkyre
Knights of the Ouroboros
#38 - 2015-06-19 15:29:24 UTC
Dominix: Looking gorgeous, get it rolled out.
Stiletto: Really like it, it still looks like the same ship, just sleeker and meaner.
Probe: Love the extra detail on the little dinghy.

Thrasher: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. That's a Caldari vessel. Stop with the damn pointy bits and antennas every fricking where. The Thrasher is a mean looking thing with gills, a sloped forehead and a front spike. Those are way, way, way too out of the Minmatar meme. The Stiletto and Probe still look like themselves, just enhanced. Focus on that. ENHANCE the Thrasher. Don't remake it into something it isn't. You can make the Sabre a bit fancier, but don't get ridiculous.

Get your Caldari out of my Minmatar.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#39 - 2015-06-19 15:32:36 UTC
Not loving the direction you want to take the Minmatar ships in, not at all. The Probe redesign looks way too much like the Reaper rookie ship and what the heck are those big wings on the Stiletto? As for the Thrasher concepts...no, please just no.

Please try to create an overall design theme for Minmatar and not just, as another poster put it, Caldari with wingy bits pasted everywhere.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Kimimaro Yoga
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#40 - 2015-06-19 15:35:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Kimimaro Yoga
Dominix redesign is good. You know what would be really good though?

Adding a skin for the Domi to make it look like the infested drone version. Because that would be so awesome, I would throw money at you the moment it came out.

Adding a vote to "please don't use that new thrasher model". The problem with it is that it's simply too busy. As noted before, it has enough sections to make sense as a model for a larger ship. At the levels of zoom people are often using to look at ships, it won't have a distinct shape the way the current one does, it'll just be a pile of messy polygons. Consider that many frigates and destroyers currently have quite distinct and interesting silhouettes even when zoomed fairly far out. This new thrasher model won't have that… well it kind of will, it'll be the messy pile that doesn't look like anything in particular.

I think staying closer to the existing model would not only make the sentimental people happy, it would make the ship look less like an accident in a cardboard box factory.

Edit: The Caldari designs I like the least are the ones that are just piles of boxy shapes mashed together. Heck the Leviathan (which is an old skin I know) is such a pile of rectangles that if you zoom out a ways, it looks like some sort of anti-aliasing test graphic instead of a titan. Please don't make Minmatar ships nothing more than Caldari Damacy box piles, with rust added.

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