Ships & Modules

Ehh...
Chainsaw has only 27 losses his whole career, 16 of them are BS hulls.
He has 400 kills sitting in Amarr BS and another 50 or so in other race BS.
450/16 makes him very qualified to state the facts of his experience.


NightmareX I have known of and seen since my start in EVE.
He plays for PvP and has probably tried flying every ship in the game that he thought was viable.
Nearly a thousand kills, with 600 of them from BS hulls.
Less than 40 losses.
He is also very qualified to state facts from his experience in EVE.

You have 21 fights total, and 2 confirmed kills.
2/21 says to me that you aren't qualified to make ANY PvP assumptions, or give any advice on any ship class.
For you to ignore or dismiss comments that guys like this give is either severe learning issues or trolling.

I feel like this is a 15 page troll, and has no relevant information to add to the forums.
A lock seems to be the best option at this point.

The more you run your mouth Aza, the more people are going to see your lack of understanding.


So keep arguing your idiotic point. Everytime you post. The more people will see that you have no idea what you are talking about, the more you post, the more people will see that you don't understand a damned thing about how the mechanics work and all you are is a small whining **** beating his hands on the floor in a fit not because you CAN'T understand, because I fully believe you have the capability of being a decent player in EVE. It's because you REFUSE to listen to logic, from people who are actively telling you that your idea is wrong, by actively doing what you say is impossible day by day.


Basically your an idiot. And you are the only one to blame for being an idiot. Congratz lol.

So... you are confessing that to win EVE, it is about having the bigger blob? If so, you are validating my point that players should find something else to train for. If it doesn't matter too much what you bring to the blob, why waste the time and isk to field a battleship when a BC will do just as well?

Just trying to help people realize the content eventuality is blobs. Thank you for being sharp enough to bring these facts out

Not only did i use a Raven as my first real PVP Battleship in 2005, but i was actually part of the first Dreadnought kill in EVE's history aswell that was my first kill in a Battleship as you can see here: https://beta.eve-kill.net/kill/-4640929/

Hell yeah, sometimes i need to do some self-advertisement of myself being in a Battleship .

Mostly here for the popcorn and the slow roasting of the OP.
That and the kickass solo battleship pvp vids. Those things are gold.

I know it's unthinkable, but a simple 'okay, I was wrong' will likely stop the application of red hot pokers.
Have it your way.

Is okay. You're not all that he's ignoring.
Honestly, aside from CAM I didn't think that any Fox News correspondents played EVE.
Learn something new every day.

You're not even old enough in EVE to realize that the fit you are seeing is not what the Moros had fitted. That killmail is so old that the killmail have been bugged on killboards through the years. It's missing 60% of the modules it had fitted on the Moros because of that.

Not only that, but did you see any less peoples on the first Titan killmail for example?

Nope, because there was a butt load of peoples on the first Titan kill.

We wasn't that many against that Moros (we was the whole 12 peoples where 9 out of that was Battleships) considering that we was fighting the biggest and most expensive ship at that time. So i think you need to wake up a little here.

I have a alt that can fly the Baddon (training for the Paladin) so I was wondering if this ship had any use besides bait with that huge 192 ehp with dual 1600 steel plates + links.

At 500mil isk total, show me a solo or even 2-3man gang that can take a dual or tri-rep Hyperion.

Show me a single ship that will reliably alpha enemy logistics off the field. (One shot - not 2 or 3 - if there's one logi, there will be more - so multiple shots can be repped through.)
Need a Maelstrom or Tempest for this. Mega? I dunno - I haven't done much with those.

Show me a ship that can neut out an enemy triage carrier while being focused by an enemy fleet? Need a Geddon for this, and it contributes dps or ewar drones to the fight as well.

Then there are spider tank domis... find me three ships that will tank and dps as well as those for equitable cost and skillpoint investment.

You need a T1 Battleship to AoE jam a fleet and survive. Scorpion. The alternative is many cruisers or frigs.

You need Battleships to pipe-bomb a fleet. (Unless you are going to dump caps/supers to pipe-bomb - which is far more skill / cost intensive)

You need a battleship to hit at extreme (200-250km - Entosis sov, this may become a thing) range. Rokh etc.

Then, training Battleships gets you Pirate battleships, Marauders, Blops, Faction Battleships, and leads nicely into dreads. Training cruisers won't get you those - so you need to train BS.

Battleships wouldn't be the first thing I advise a newbro to train for - they are better off training for closer goals, and work their way towards the bigger things. I would definitely have battleships on the list of things to work to - ESPECIALLY if you are planning on Null / Wormhole life.

If you are in a position where moving isn't a big option (Entosis sov? No remote reps, so that buffer is gonna be important) Battleships will hold a field far easier than frigs, cruisers, dessies or BCs. And they'll do it cheaper.

If you have the guys - anything will work. If you have a limit on the number of guys you can bring, but need to fill many roles on the fly - Battleships have the utility to do this.

I'm not terribly experienced in pvp - but these are the things I would say Battleships are needed for.

Having said that, I would like to see Battleships warp a little faster - but rigs / macharial / lowslots / implants can fix this.