EVE General Discussion

currently my favorite mixed skin... Sarum Anathema

Anathema being a T2 hull as no skins for it, but the Sarum prime Magnate skin fits it very nicely. Doesn't hurt that I love t he Sarum Prime colors for on most Amarr ship

side note for the CCP jockey making notes, I'd love to see a permanent skin that are "Sarum Prime for cruiser class hulls"

Far from it, there are others like me who have been having so much fun with this feature that we have been logged in playing and not reading forums for a change. Ive been fairly disaffected by eve the last couple of months, happens to all of us now and then, logging in less and less, yet since this feature I have been logging in every day, just enjoying flying my police myrmidon, or blood raiders cynabal just for the fun of flying it, even if there is nothing to do.

I wouldn't have engaged with skins and appreciated that work and content going by their old prices ever above the 50-100 mil pricepoint, so I am really glad even for a few days to experience some fun gameplay without the prohibitive cost.

I haven't felt so enthusiastic about playing eve in a long time. Absolutely gutted that this will be patched. You can't have player customisation but still try to cling to rigid ideas of racial themes in any way that will make that customisation meaningful. The focus seems to be on bringing isk in for ccp I get that, but as someone who is already a bit disengaged with the game atm, this kind of thing could have been a motivator to re-engage and extend my sub. The prices I see on market for the larger skins are ludicrous, so once patched this whole thing becomes totally irrelevant to any ongoing interest in the feature I may have had.

It has been a fun few days while it lasted anyway.

This is the kind of fun which is similar to the fun they had when they made every character in WOW level 80. Yes, it is fun for a few days, and the kids get to try out all the toys, but then once novelty has worn off your left with a poor game.

I am afraid, your comparison is not working.

If you set everybody at maxlvl in a themepark game, you´re effectively removing all the content they could´ve enjoyed while leveling up.

This glitch however is ADDING a ton of content, in the form of hundrets or thousands of ship/skin pairings. Of course, not everybody is interested in this kind of content, but we did definately not lose anything. The only moment we will lose something is in the moment this glitch gets fixed.

Of course the glitch has to be fixed.

But we´ve now seen and enjoyed how the SKIN system should actually work. We saw all the possibilities and we want to have them!

Also, have some more Guristas awesomeness:

http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3976/xexmq9ou_png.htm
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3976/zanttz2d_png.htm

I want the Sukuuvestaa skin as an option for all ships. I put it on a Stratios and an Astero. I want to put it on a Providence too.

If we had the option to buy any skin, I'd buy the Sukuuvestaa for Stratios, Astero, most likely Providence, the new Caracal and Cerberus hull, as well as for Nemesis, Manticore and Purifier. Would look great on Tengu, Proteus, Legion and LokI.

Right there, I listed 12 ship hulls I would buy skins for. CCP, you want my money, there you go. Make it happen and I'll be willing to buy the skins I like for the Hulls I want.

More skin options available for sale per hull, the more money CCP will make. Price these skins cheaper than they are, but give us many more options to choose from.

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Pricing still has to be reasonable but thats exactly the way I was thinking it should be done.
Sell skins for individual ships and I will never buy one cause guess what... I fly a lot of different ships. I'm not going to spend $5-$20 to change the look of a single class of frigate that i "might" use this week if a need for it comes up. But let me buy a skin and then use it on whatever I want and I may just buy quite a few of them. 2-3 at a minimum.

It boils down to denying content. Artificial scarcity for what, pricing?

Back during the clothing roundtable with the devs, that Corbexx organized, one of the CCP artists said that clothing items won't be made in versions for every faction, due to the principle of making certain things special. I understood that at the time, because clothing hadn't been codified by region, to be changed according to a set of color schemes.

That's the way the SKIN system works. Among the texture information is a color code, and you're seeing it in action.

What I think the NES -should- look like is a wide selection of every combination of color possible, for every ship, with better microtransaction pricing. It's a straightforward, honest offering of assets that have been created.

I had the same opinion as other people in this thread, that SKINs are not something that interest me, so -whatever-. But what I'm seeing is another example of the greed is good mentality, and content being held hostage for exorbitant prices.

Players are calm now, but wait until the plug is pulled.


The issue is the pricing. What does it say about what you do and don't plan to release?

The NES and the in-game economy are not the same thing, and I think the lay person's hope is that people will latch on to unique SKINs with real money the same way they do in-game with ISK. But you need to disconnect the two. It wasn't well-received by players when it was done with monocles, and it's causing resentment this time around too.

I'm not just making a negative opinion about this. The bolded part of my post is my suggestion to make things right. This bug has exposed the SKIN system and the pricing strategy in the most visible way possible. All over Twitter, Reddit... if you don't make it right, it will likely be the second time CCP has mismanaged vanity items in a spectacular way.

If it is a technical problem that will affect the game, you should have issued a cease and desist and banned people outright. Even if it isn't, you should have issued bans. It lets people know you mean business about the way you plan to manage things. Monument shooters should have been banned too, and I don't understand why that was allowed to happen.

Regardless of your reasons, people are doing the math of what they want, looking at what's possible, what's available, and then pricing. Even if you plan to release everything and are making an effort to do so, the pricing is... obnoxious.

If things go south and you have a summer of rage on your hands, I promise I won't say anything negative anywhere on the internet or in person that would contribute to the drama. For my conscience. But right now, this is the thing I can point back to and say I told you it was going to happen. It has all the same signs, and people didn't even care about clothing.

All this situation needs to go to 11 is a leaked memo. Got any of those around?

Does anyone realistically expect CCP to release all their skins, slash the prices they are asking, and then make them available on any ship? That is certainly what some of you sound like you are asking for; if so you are going to be disappointed as it is simply not going to happen.

What you need to remember, like a drug company that spends thousands on research and development, when they eventually discover the drug, they don't simply sell it off at production cost do they. No, they try to recoup all the time and resources invested into the discovery of the drug which was the difficult part.

This ships skins thing is no different, anyone who has been following will know that CCP have had this in the works for quite some time now. I am sure many of us had realised that once CCP had the mechanic in place, then the actual creation of the assets was not going to be the difficult part.

The business model is also perfectly reasonable, with many of the skins priced at under $10, and some for as little as $3.50 for a permanent skin. The comparisons being made between skins and the summer of rage are massively exaggerated and dramatic. With incarna CCP was taking the game in a completely different direction, this skin thing is simply a side project with the rest of the game staying on the rails travelling towards seagulls vision.

Give CCP a break and let them fix this bug.

Ok so I've played this game a little over 2 years, my first forum post! \o/ (I despise forums)

This is a topic I must weigh in and voice an opinion!

Please allow the 'bug' of all skins on all ships. Probably the only time I had a genuine 'nerdgasm' was when I saw an individual linking pix of said bug on ships (screenshots of machariels in assorted colors & a screenshot of a stratios sporting the quafe skin). This is AWESOME! Why in gods name would you consider this a no-no.

You preach that EVE is the pinnacle of a sandbox, that the individuals run the game and the dev's/employees truly serve them with minimal interference. I find it difficult to believe that the majority do not want skins as an option, well correction - limited skins dependent on NPC lore. Seriously?!

Unless all skins for all ships is a bug that detracts from gameplay (causes lag etc), I see NO reason to not allow this bug. Machariel & Stratios are 2 of my favorite ships in the game! I tried to repeat the 'bug' for the machariel, dropping a few hundred mil on skins & failing to get 1 skin to apply to my sadness.

Please, allow all skins for all ships! o7

OK, so why don't you give specific feedback. What do you want to see, and what price is the most you'd be willing to pay? Imagine everything conceivable is on the table.