EVE General Discussion

I stand by my original point: Sov is a lost cause. And Fozziesov is going to be an unmitigated disaster. But most of the devs are so isolated in their own little bubbles they can't see the forrest for the trees.

If sov is already a "lost cause", how can fozziesov be "an unmitigated disaster"?

I've played dominion sov warfare for 5 years. You don't get to tell me anything is boring.

EVE is 12 years old now. As far as MMOs are concerned, the community is sailing through uncharted waters, because any other active MMO of comparable age is basically PvE. Back in EVE's dim, distant pre-cambrian era, any batshit insane organisational model and leadership could find itself a niche in the game's ecology. Now the game is densely populated with people who can

(1) Fly just about any ship with any weapon
(2) Have seen what happens when those batshit orgs and dumbkopf leaders run things
(3) Join orgs that are very well co-ordinated and run by people who know what the **** they're doing.

Natural result: most of EVE's ecological niches are filled with damb great tyrannosaurs, and the ones that aren't are infested with velociraptors. No room for small furry creatures to emerge in the daylight. Meaning that any new entrants into the environment are going to have to evolve right through 12 years of learning and progress before they're going to be competitive. There only only two general classes of outcomes to this situation:

i) CCP hit us with a giant meteor - a set of game changes so overwhelming that nearly all the accumulated doctrines, assets, knowledge and skill becomes useless. Basically they'd have to change EVE into EVE II, but you could interpret fozziesov as an attempt to break up the 0.0 meta in this way.

ii) The only hope for any substantial change on the map comes from when an existing organisation dies and the component parts bud off to form one of more new entities. hopefully hoovering up some starry-eyed newbies while they do so.

Class (i) outcomes naturally alienate a lot of whiny entitled veteran players

Class (ii) outcomes naturally alienate a lot of whiny entitled new players

CCP meet Rock and his friend Hard Place. You'll be spending the rest of EVE's existence in the company of these two.

And that trend started right after "the largest battle online ever" and the losing side said "**** this" and quit.

The title of this thread is "The Shrinking Sandbox", but the sandbox isn't really shrinking - just the number of players in the sandbox. If the number dwindle further will we get to the point to where is seems like New Eden is empty while you're flying around? It seems like that would further decrease the player base.

What if the size of New Eden expanded or contracted based on player numbers for the month? Maybe through the allocation of resources to encourage consolidation rather than blocking off space?

People were saying that EVE was dying back then too. I was kind of nervous about wasting £37.99 on a 3 month sub.

This “Terror Management Theory” sprouts from psychologist Ernest Becker’s Pulitzer-winning “The Denial of Death,” which posits that civilization is humanity’s answer to the threat of impending mortality.

Greenberg, one of the theory’s founders, whose birthday happens to fall on December 21st, explains that humans, like other animals, have a basic survival mechanism wired into us; yet unlike other animals, we are aware of our eventual death. To cope, we devise elaborate cultural traditions and worldviews that lend us a sense of symbolic permanence. From this vantage point, apocalypticism might be equivalent to scratching a nagging itch caused by our looming mortality.

Armageddons tend to attract certain people – usually those who feel marginalized – as an expression of discontent and hope for a better future, says Greenberg. To religious Doomsdayers, an apocalypse would bring a paradise to Earth or their soul forever to heaven. To secular Doomsdayers, preparing for the worst is a way to distract from the anxiety and vulnerability of daily life. After all if you’re doing something, at least you’re not helpless.

Lets face it. Goons "won" the nullsec game long ago, the game is effectively over.