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The Shrinking Sandbox - Eve by numbers

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1281 - 2015-06-13 23:23:10 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:

Its a shame you spend more time on the forums whining bout those rules than playing in the game.


I agree, but then, I do post from my phone. 50+ hour work week being what it is.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1282 - 2015-06-13 23:33:19 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:

Its a shame you spend more time on the forums whining bout those rules than playing in the game.


I agree, but then, I do post from my phone. 50+ hour work week being what it is.

You shouldn't cheat your employer like that.
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#1283 - 2015-06-13 23:35:13 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:

Its a shame you spend more time on the forums whining bout those rules than playing in the game.


I agree, but then, I do post from my phone. 50+ hour work week being what it is.

You shouldn't cheat your employer like that.



His job appears to be as unfulfilling as Eve is. Perhaps Eve has become a job as well?

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1284 - 2015-06-13 23:38:15 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:

Its a shame you spend more time on the forums whining bout those rules than playing in the game.


I agree, but then, I do post from my phone. 50+ hour work week being what it is.

You shouldn't cheat your employer like that.


My job is to sit quietly at my desk in the event that something breaks. The Army really doesn't care what else I do, it's the technical knowledge that I'm being paid for.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#1285 - 2015-06-13 23:41:08 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:

Its a shame you spend more time on the forums whining bout those rules than playing in the game.


I agree, but then, I do post from my phone. 50+ hour work week being what it is.

You shouldn't cheat your employer like that.


My job is to sit quietly at my desk in the event that something breaks. The Army really doesn't care what else I do, it's the technical knowledge that I'm being paid for.



I now understand your point of view completely. You need structure, you need to be told what to do. You need the goal. 0.0 alliances gives you the goal. (And make no attempt to claim Code isn't an extension of a 0.0 alliance)

You don't like solo PVE high-sec players because they are FREE.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1286 - 2015-06-13 23:42:34 UTC
Market McSelling Alt wrote:

I now understand your point of view completely. You need structure, you need to be told what to do.


Swing and a miss.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#1287 - 2015-06-13 23:43:25 UTC
Sgt Ocker wrote:

Having fun at the expense of others, is frowned upon in every other aspect of day to day life,


Where do you live? In Magical Mystery land? My society is a cut throat one, capitalism you know?
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#1288 - 2015-06-13 23:45:14 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:

Its a shame you spend more time on the forums whining bout those rules than playing in the game.


I agree, but then, I do post from my phone. 50+ hour work week being what it is.

You shouldn't cheat your employer like that.


Unless your employer allows you to use your benefits to your benefit, like mine does. Including use of phone services.
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1289 - 2015-06-13 23:48:27 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

My job is to sit quietly at my desk in the event that something breaks. The Army really doesn't care what else I do, it's the technical knowledge that I'm being paid for.

Taxpayer money too.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1290 - 2015-06-13 23:49:49 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

My job is to sit quietly at my desk in the event that something breaks. The Army really doesn't care what else I do, it's the technical knowledge that I'm being paid for.

Taxpayer money too.


Oh, if you only knew. They overhauled our air conditioning one year, even though we had a new system put in only the year before. The reason why? Typo on the work order.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#1291 - 2015-06-13 23:51:18 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

My job is to sit quietly at my desk in the event that something breaks. The Army really doesn't care what else I do, it's the technical knowledge that I'm being paid for.

Taxpayer money too.



He isn't actually in the army. He is probably a civilian contractor working for the army. Which would also explain the massive inferiority complex.

He is probably also the third son in his family, or the least a middle child.

None of that matters, just plays into the whole idea that this game isn't "harsh" enough because some want it to be just as miserable for others as their real life is for them.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1292 - 2015-06-13 23:52:48 UTC
Market McSelling Alt wrote:

He isn't actually in the army. He is probably a civilian contractor working for the army. Which would also explain the massive inferiority complex.

He is probably also the third son in his family, or the least a middle child.


This armchair internet psychiatry is hilarious. Do go on.

All wrong, by the way.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#1293 - 2015-06-13 23:52:55 UTC  |  Edited by: GankYou
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Market McSelling Alt wrote:





You guys keep saying that high sec has gotten safer over the years. I will use one of your famous lines, and the answer I already know is you don't have any. Where is the data?

There has been no magical drop in total isk, total mass or total numbers destroyed in high sec. High sec continues to be the place where by isk value and hull mass ships are destroyed on par or above that of 0.0

The data has been fairly consistent over the years, with a few blips like when 75 titans are killed in one day. High Sec didn't stop producing killmails just because you said it did.

If players open their maps and look at the statistics, it is easy to see that high sec is one of the most dangerous places in the EVE Universe. High sec and low sec combined are more dangerous than all of null sec.


Used to be the other way around, or at the very least - it was balanced.

Although nowadays, it would appear even the nullsec population prefers Hisec lifestyles. Blink

ANYBODY WANTS A DONUT?

...And they all crave one thing - ISK. ¤

[WTS] ME10 / TE20 BPOs from Battleships/Cruisers to Fighters, Carriers, Triage/Siege, XL modules & Cap Components
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1294 - 2015-06-13 23:58:04 UTC
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

My job is to sit quietly at my desk in the event that something breaks. The Army really doesn't care what else I do, it's the technical knowledge that I'm being paid for.

Taxpayer money too.



He isn't actually in the army. He is probably a civilian contractor working for the army. Which would also explain the massive inferiority complex.

He is probably also the third son in his family, or the least a middle child.

None of that matters, just plays into the whole idea that this game isn't "harsh" enough because some want it to be just as miserable for others as their real life is for them.

Yes a contractor because the Army would have busted him by now I hope Sad
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#1295 - 2015-06-13 23:58:51 UTC
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:

Its a shame you spend more time on the forums whining bout those rules than playing in the game.


I agree, but then, I do post from my phone. 50+ hour work week being what it is.

You shouldn't cheat your employer like that.


My job is to sit quietly at my desk in the event that something breaks. The Army really doesn't care what else I do, it's the technical knowledge that I'm being paid for.



I now understand your point of view completely. You need structure, you need to be told what to do. You need the goal. 0.0 alliances gives you the goal. (And make no attempt to claim Code isn't an extension of a 0.0 alliance)

You don't like solo PVE high-sec players because they are FREE.


A total mis understanding of people like him (which is common, and why CODE exists), and why people like me don't fall prey to them. Kaarous knows I'm a PVE player and he's never had a problem with me, because I don't try to meta game him and his ilk away by whining to CCP.

I dislike the exact same people he does, because those same people claim to speak for people like me (the king of "False consensus" is posting in this very thread). They do not, CCP has give us all the tools we need to not fall victim to 'bad people' and the constant 'carebear enabling' you and people like you do does nothing but result in a game that is nerfed for real PVE players. Because it's not red Xs Chevrons that provide the content, it's the satisfaction of killing those Chevrons while avoiding the bad guys.

TL;DR, Kaarous doesn't hate you because you are free, he hates you because you are whinny and weak and unable to cope with simple things in a video game where you can't really die.
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#1296 - 2015-06-13 23:59:40 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Bottom line: High sec is where the fun is. It needs to be buffed.


Nada, nope, nunca. Nope.

See my signature. Blink

...And they all crave one thing - ISK. ¤

[WTS] ME10 / TE20 BPOs from Battleships/Cruisers to Fighters, Carriers, Triage/Siege, XL modules & Cap Components
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#1297 - 2015-06-14 00:03:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Market McSelling Alt
Jenn aSide wrote:


A total mis understanding of people like him (which is common, and why CODE exists), and why people like me don't fall prey to them. Kaarous knows I'm a PVE player and he's never had a problem with me, because I don't try to meta game him and his ilk away by whining to CCP.

I dislike the exact same people he does, because those same people claim to speak for people like me (the king of "False consensus" is posting in this very thread). They do not, CCP has give us all the tools we need to not fall victim to 'bad people' and the constant 'carebear enabling' you and people like you do does nothing but result in a game that is nerfed for real PVE players. Because it's not red Xs Chevrons that provide the content, it's the satisfaction of killing those Chevrons while avoiding the bad guys.

TL;DR, Kaarous doesn't hate you because you are free, he hates you because you are whinny and weak and unable to cope with simple things in a video game where you can't really die.



No, he should hate me because while he has to use a cowards way to kill something shiney, I find my prey, war dec them, let them know I am coming and end up the victor proving I am better than them.

Red Chevrons are just a form of funding the real fun of this game. But I would never be as presumptuous as you to tell others that they have to play my way.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1298 - 2015-06-14 00:03:57 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:

TL;DR, Kaarous doesn't hate you because you are free, he hates you because you are whinny and weak and unable to cope with simple things in a video game where you can't really die.


Besides, who would really call someone who has chained themselves to an ice belt "free", anyway?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1299 - 2015-06-14 00:07:36 UTC
GankYou wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Bottom line: High sec is where the fun is. It needs to be buffed.


Nada, nope, nunca. Nope.

See my signature. Blink

Nerfing it has not increased null population, but decreased overall EVE Online population.....
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#1300 - 2015-06-14 00:08:15 UTC  |  Edited by: GankYou
I've re-uploaded a more detailed graph showing the value of both Production & Destruction per system, segmented by security status - http://imgur.com/o4cQOTh,ZYyzHPl#1

One point one quadrillion ISK-worth of products manufactured in the year 2013-YC115. Smile

Looks like a biological cell. Smile

It's ALIVE. Big smile

...And they all crave one thing - ISK. ¤

[WTS] ME10 / TE20 BPOs from Battleships/Cruisers to Fighters, Carriers, Triage/Siege, XL modules & Cap Components