EVE General Discussion

Go look at the maps, see who controls the majority of moons.
A few years back CCP decided to "balance" moon goo and added moons, many of which are in lowsec, most of which are controlled by nul groups.

The majority of R64 R32 moons in nulsec are controlled by large nulsec groups. The name on the pos may not say, PL, BL, Goons or whatever but look a little closer and you find, they belong to mega groups.

It will matter little how defensive indexes work, those moons will be defended with all the might the owners can muster. They are the life blood of mega groups, they won't let them be taken from them.
The Strategic index, the primary component for defensive indexes, is time based. The longer you hold a system, the higher it goes, you don't need to "live" in the system, just use it enough to get the other indexes up a little so the strategic index can do its job.

As the new mining arrays etc are still a long way from becoming part of the game and entosis links have nothing to do with pos's, it is a little early to worry about defensive indexes and capture times.
More important question is, how can an attacker tell what time frame they are at looking now.
Testing entosis use on SISI, the times to capture varied (from 12 mins to 22 mins) on the same station services less than 48 hours apart. 1st time out it took 12 mins to capture each service, less than 48 hrs later I went back and it took 22 mins to capture one service.

Maybe CCP fiddled with the indexes to make it take longer OR maybe it just didn't work as intended. There is no way of knowing as there is no way of knowing what defensive indexes are in place or at what levels.
You just start entosis link and it takes as long as it takes - Not what I'd call a good method of attack and definitely leaves little room for any new strategies.
At least with DPS you know how long it will take based on the size of your fleet.
With Entosis modules it is all guess work, from 12 mins to whatever. Attacker success or failure is dependent on unknown defensive indexes. (room for new strategies and fighting styles? )

The answer is already known: Not for a long time.

Also, who cares about defense indexes? As usually everything favours those attacking, therefore, let them take the moon, then take it back.
Forcing them to defend it puts them in a weaker position when these changes go through.

You don't say. Two points:

1) Moon juice wars kept and keep this game from dieing.
2) Have you heard of Technetium?
3) Shure, PL is in Catch, if that makes any ~sense~ to your connection, but what of Fountain, Querious and Delve? Fwends all around the Universe.

Hey dude, I was never addressing any of your points on moons, and good fun is happening in Fountain right now.

Certain R64 sudden *depleting* and reemergence on the other side of New Eden could help with fixing the donut and 35k PCU problem, no argument there.

There were no major coalitions in the game back in 2008-2010 like there are now, which agreeably, can almost kill Eve under its own dull weight.

CCP didn't reiterate on Sov mechanics, nor the growing superrcapital blobs back then. They are now.



Sure, but it's still not at 210k ISK p/u.

https://eveinfo.net/wiki/inde~405.htm
https://eveinfo.net/wiki/inde~406.htm

But what of Technetium? You could argue that the previous gaem direct0rs were in cahoots, but certainly not now.

https://element-43.com/market/16649/

Fozzie became a dev in the Summer of 2012-YC114, if I remember correctly.



The people chose to settle there for very good reasons, as the Amarr system and the Domain region is a laser shot away. AMARR VICTOR! \O/

All upgraded sovereign nullsecks systems have access to MegaZydMorphine and King Spodumain. \O/

It wasn't so back in the day, and still isn't, as the only mining that was done came from belts, where Arkonor, Bistot, Crokite availability depended, and still depends, on the Truesec, or negative Nullsec status of a particular system.

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yeah and im sure eve had a motherfawkin cow level .. just STFU already

Good fun?
I'm not sure what your definition of fun is but I suppose, as long as Brave can sustain the lossmail cost of providing "fun in Fountain", it will continue, for a while at least.

Nice of Goons to give Brave at least 1 little victory out of 24 pages (in 24 hours) of lossmails.
29 cruisers vs 18 frigates. Nice to see Goons give a little back

Depleting moon materials (so it is actually mining and not just a static place to print isk) could instill ongoing life (conflict) into nulsec. It won't happen, endangering the stability of the power blocks is the last thing CCP wants to do.

Sgt Ocker, Milla, I'm a little guy from the Stain region and all I can say is the way in which the game has changed fits me like a suit made from the finest cloth.

In my old age I have developed a wisdom and I understand that things are not as easy as they seem, we are not responsible for developing Eve online we are the players. We also have to understand being in charge of game development has a big responsibility where you have to understand the market and create a product which will keep peoples interest.

Eve online was the first game to utilize the internet to connect all of us players in a spaceship setting and for that alone they get my respect. I think this kind of game only appeals to a hand full of people, lets face it, to play a space ship game you've got to be interested in space ships?. Perhaps we have reached the limit of what eve can offer simply because there are 1000's of other games on the market?

CCP have a loyal fan right here, I am happy to pay my sub fee and i'll do so for a long time to come. Some of us Eve players are too moany, stubborn and ignorant.

Keep going Seagull and the rest of the dev crew, you're doing an ok job.

Fuzzy Logic SOV is supposed to be a sledge hammer solution to breaking up the coalitions.