EVE General Discussion

You're right I don't understand or see the point. So large dominating groups are bad for the game and with them there is no way to add content to the game? I just don't understand the beef with so called large dominating groups. As long as you say "this is bad" without explaining why it will be difficult for me to understand why. Sorry. I've always been fighting against larger groups in this game, ever since I joined.

About that last sentence... don't know what the **** that means and don't really care. What's with the Eve bro-psychologists around here. I ain't denying the obvious. The **** just ain't obvious to me. It sounds like a bunch of bullshit

Edit: i'm just saying the large dominating groups ain't the problem focus your attention on the actual problem

Yet you posted a response anyway.

Most of the stuff you're complaining about is how this game has been forever. Can't say I agree or disagree with these new sovereignty mechanics and all that bullshit but new players have always found this game hard to grasp what do you want them to do dumb it down make it like WoW?

Let's just nip this in the bud: No, the point of a business is to have a business. Most business owners are content with making a living, preferably but not necessarily a good one, and preferably but not necessarily doing something they love. Profit is necessary, but it's not always the whole point

CCP has never been about blindly chasing profit, "Greed is Good?" notwithstanding. Yes, its executives do quite well for themselves. But they wanted a very specific kind of game, and they've figured out--or maybe, stumbled into--how to make that work well enough to keep the doors open for a decade solid. There certainly are ideas they could chase that might greatly increase the size of EVE, at least for a while, just as the Trammel server greatly increased the userbase of Ultima Online. But if they implement those ideas then EVE isn't EVE anymore, the great experiment is over, and CCP is just another MMO developer on a remote, frozen rock. That matters more to them than money.

It is indeed perfect for a business plan like EVE. Massive change of target audience is risky especially for a product established for a long time.

I am a new player and I am gonna stick around.

And I'm gonna have to stop you and people on your side rampant pessimism.

As much as you hate it this game is great and has a great potential in attracting players, and that because it provides something no other game on the market provides right now.
This has been said, again and again and again, EVE offers something unique, and BRAVE proved that thing can be accessible to anybody out there.

The problem with people like you is that you are ready to jeopardize that unique thing EVE offers and that for some supposed short term increase of players. Sure, let's make High-sec the best place in the game, let's make all the gankers disappear so that everyone can finally farm their hearths out, non-consensual PvP is so 1990 right?
Well by doing so you will eradicate the only game out there with real risks and rewards, the game that has created the most kind of emergent stories and that for decades, the only real PvP experience out there.
And that to appeal to what? The mass of locusts that hop from MMOs to MMOs, who increase the numbers of the next hyped-up MMO until they deem it boring and make it plunge into irrelevance.

So, sorry there are a lot of new players coming, I'm one of them, Fanfest 2015 and the AT convinced me, and I guess many others at the same time, that I had to play this game, and I'm sure the series of videos from The Scope showing the different events of the game will help show the great things about this game to more people and attract the right kind of players for it, players that will help it grow steadily.

And there we go again. You are still a horrible person for wanting people to lose their jobs . And you do have another option.... get the **** out of my EvE if you don't like it.

I'm glad the new player experience has been positive for you, that is IF your a new player (I have a 6 year old character with 3 mil SP I play every now and then just for fun).
Two months into the game I'm afraid doesn't put you in a position to say those of us have been around a long time are wrong or hate the game.
Personally I love the game, I hate what is happening to it.

Eve is very quickly losing that thing that made it unique - If you understood what Fozziesov alone is doing to the uniqueness of Eve you would not be so fast to criticize. Forming into large groups of ever increasing numbers is a good thing when you have 300 or 400k active players online per day (which eve will never have, not in my lifetime anyway) but when you only have 20 or 30k online the 3 or 4 dominating groups make up a large % of that number, it breaks game play .
CCP know this, they know they screwed up by allowing players to form unbeatable coalitions and won't do anything positive to break them up for fear of losing subs connected to those groups. That is why we are getting a "whole new" sov system that favours those established large groups.
The only thing "new" about fozzie sov is the removal of a little more game play. Many players did indeed complain about hours of sov grinding but that doesn't mean they wanted it completely removed from the game, to be replaced with an even more boring type of grinding. Again, CCP screwed up and are now too afraid to fix it.

Player feedback, which CCP claim to listen to, has been less than positive about the coming changes and CCP's way of dealing with it is to ignore players completely. The new and admittedly interesting (if not for it relying on the bullshit mechanics tied to sov) blog about Citadels was published at a very strategic time, timed exactly right in an attempt to move player focus from the crap going live in a couple of weeks.

Oh and your right, you are just one new player. 3 people i have played with for over 5 years left in the last 2 months. So +1 -3 is not good balance, is it?

Eve for the little guy like you who is happy to lose more than he wins, will hold its appeal for as long as losing more than you win is appealing. Oh and as for Brave, if your happy to be content (killmails) for the large blobs of nulsec by all means go join them.

Please don't try to judge those who have seen eve slowly decline based on your minimal knowledge and experience of the game.

Yes. They keep themselves from playing based upon the information they receive about the game. Other people create the information. Sometimes the sandbox is quicksand.

Your second comment is ironic based upon your first. It is the individuals choice on how they play the game. But it is also their choice if they choose to disobey the EULA. You earn a ban from CCP, it doesn't just simply happen.

In short you are stating it is other people's fault when they choose not to play the game but CCP's fault if you get banned. Entitled much?

Well, apparently CCP did two things recently.

First, they've implemented OKR (Objectives and Key Results) for their development teams. OKR is one of Google's most beloved corporate practices, and it is supposed to be a great tool to improve the performance of employees.

Second, CCP implemented OKR... wrong. Or so calams one of their current employees at a Glassdoor review. Knowing CCP and their corporate culture (never get anything right the first time and reinvent the wheel as poorly and as often as possible) my bets are on CCP setting OKR which can't be quantified properly.

How does OKR affect us? Well, a guy who has set a OKR haves a strong commitment to stick to that OKR's Key Results and Objectives. Anything not there is left out of focus, which means that development teams comitted to a OKR are less willing, or not willing at all, to change their mind. And that works good only as far as the OKR themselves make sense (and can be quantified).

Sugar Kyle already made a comment on how dev teams have got their agendas so full that it's very difficult to put anything new on the table unless CCP already tasked the teams with it. Which means that player feedback is getting the rug pulled from under their feet, since teams are a) very busy and b) very comitted to NOT change their mind (which could imply delaying or missing a Key Result or even the Objectives).

Factor in that CCP fired 22% of its employees since December 2013 and you have the picture of a company fully comitted to ram on anything before it... be it a exit from the pit or a concrete wall.

And from the point of view of a member of the 62%, there is a concrete wall ahead of CCP as they focus on keeping the old farts subscribed and ignore why oh why EVE fails to retain 90% of the new players. It's not a bad NPE or the absence (or abundance) of PvP. What keeps EVE down is the terribad content for the 62%.

That's been the elephant in the room for years. What kills EVE is not what works but could be improved, but what doesn't works at all although it's the player's favorite content...

Read my answer to Pussy.

Don't you think CCP evaluaties its employees performance? Please. Fozzy's job IS on the line.

You and Pussy have your own opinions about what is better for the game. That's okay, everybody is entitled to an opinion. I have issues with people who think their opinion is fact and others should lose their job because of their very entitled opinions.