EVE General Discussion

Fozzie already said the drop in numbers were from Highsec...

Also no one is claiming one niche will save the game... there needs to be a balance to do that.

And you are using the new player retention stats, but we also have stats from CCP that it is 3 to 1 the number of newbros who decide to PVE only... so how could those stats possibly be accurate past the first Month+trial?

I thought we were talking about sell orders? Or did Fozzie opine on that as well?

Make up your mind which drum you're beating.




Yes, and since we know from a previous study that the vast majority of them quit the game, it's quite clear which way works better.




They're not invalid just because you don't want to accept their conclusion. Try to disqualify all you like, your narrative is "put a bullet in him, he won't race again" done.

Chew on humble pie because people who are so pitiful that that can't play a game without restricting themselves to the safest 13.5 percent of it (High sec) stop playing?
In the words of every Brit I've ever heard on comms , "Not bloody likely mate". Maybe this is why these forms have seemed a fraction less whiny in the past few months lol.

The bolded part is a "tell" like in a game of poker, ie it 'tells' you how the person thinks. In this case, it's advantage seeking behavior, because obviously, the thing that will 'fix' high sec just so happen to be the thing that Dracvlad wants to happen for his own personal reasons.

Sorry, Incursions (including scout incursions that can be done with a few friends) and Cosmos static plexes already exist. If it were lack of group content causing anything, those things would have to not exist 1st, but they do.


The real story here is that CCP's moves toward player control of things (starting with things like the pocos and the coming new structures) is slowly chasing away the NPC gameplay dependent themepark players, many of whom are high sec only players. If this is so, this is a very good outcome as far as I'm concerned, because CCP should have never tried to cater to that type of player in the 1st place.

EVE at it's best is a game of human interaction, and some of CCPs past decisons have been anti-human interaction. Those of us who relish human interaction (as in my own case, I PVE but enjoy out maneuvering PVPrs who want to kill me, most of the time anyways) are doing fine, those that don't are hopefully finding for themselves themepark games to their liking somewhere else.

I didn't say anything about the market... try harder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sbHqFgn4SOw

Go see minute 17... 80% of the players who stay past the first month play solo and avoid PVP....

CCP previously said that being ganked was not a reason they left... however new players are not PVPr's they are 3 to 1 PVE mindset.

CCP is making the same mistake that you are... They say that PVPrs tend to stay in the game longer, which is true... so their theory and yours is to make them do more PVP... but the reason PVPrs stay in the game more is the content is generated, upgraded and focused at them. If CCP put half as much effort into PVE (APOCRYPHA) they would be growing again.

Again, try harder

How is this possible? The awox nerf promised tons of new players in highsec... I am confused...

Anyone else get a good laugh at the pathetic themepark mentality these two sentences show?

I wasn't aware that highsec would only get less safe for people who aren't me. It's almost like game mechanics changes effect everyone equally.




You're really grasping. Desperate to try and apply some label, hmm?

Yeah yeah yeah, my suggestion was something to create fun content for players to play together without having to wait for a clear local and all that rubbish controlled by players playing by not playing, in other words just have simple team fun for casuals. This is just one aspect of a deep malaise including people like you and Kaarous acting as the voice of CCP and CCP letting you do it by not controlling your tame ISD for one.

You two are dinosaurs, always coming out with the same tired old rubbish, simple fact is that in that other thread now locked, you guys said its not true when I said that the main loss was from hisec, and the next day Fozzie says what I said, you can slice and dice this anyway you want, but CCP said it and you people asked me for proof, its there, simple as.

DID YOU HEAR WHAT HE SAID, proof staring you in your fat faces, you, Kaarous and Baaldor have egg on your face which is why you come out shooting with rubbish like this to divert the attention from you being so terribly and embarrassingly wrong.

And the old buff to exhumers. And anchor rigs. And being able to fit (tank) freighters. etc etc.

What the "if you just protect people" crowd doesn't ever understand is that this is a video game, and while people my complain about things, at the end of the day, a video game must be compelling. CCP (at the behest of these vocal 'protectionist' types) has been following the wrong path, adding pop ups and guides and safeties and crap. These things provide COMFORT, where as for a game to be compelling it has to induce (conquerable) STRESS.

This is why I always say to these types that their social justice quest to see people like CODE curtailed and diminished by CCP doesn't do anything to CODE, but nerfs the hell our of people like me, PVE minded players who don't want or need CCP hand holding.

Ganking is not the reason people are leaving the game from high-sec... it has been said a hundred times but yet you are again picking the wrong argument.

People are leaving the game from PVE areas, high-sec being the largest, because CCP has neglected and ignored meaningful PVE content. Not since Apocrypha have we had PVE content focus, and when we did the numbers soared.