EVE General Discussion

Yes, you missed *it*.
You missed and miss a lot.

Another outbreak of wb toughness...

i am getting out of popcorn

Because when you join this game the NPE pushes new players into missioning, mining, and everything that is not the epic space battles that got their attention in the first place.

CCP Rise showed the data and it is clear. Highsec, and more specifically highsec PvE is boring players out of the game.


There are many ways to play Eve, but pretty much all of them acknowledge that these activities take place on the background of a PvP driven, single universe. Something about that must "entice you" - the player-driven economy, the social interactions, the sense of accomplishment of harvesting resources in dangerous space - something to get you to play this game. Because if you just came for the missions I have to say single player games have come a long way since 2003 while Eve's PvE has not.

Play Eve how you want - no one has a problem if you want to play as a pacifist who never fits a weapon, an industrialist who never undocks, or a scaredy cat that runs from every fight - but don't come to the forums telling CCP that they are "doing it wrong" because the are developing and marketing a PvP game exactly as they set out to do well over a decade ago.

Sorry, fell of the chair laughing!
YOU are telling other ppl, that they do it wrong.
I want to discuss how to get lots more of players.


I do play EvE how i want, which includes PvP alot, however i have an open mind for all kind of ideas. And i do not tell others how to play a game. Sorry i had great fun and lots of laugh, but RL is calling!

Bull

When this person and myself are in agreement, you know you done ****** up.

That seems a rather long and involved process.

Why not propose - add private militia to the LP stores, which can then be hired by a player (eg. During a wardec)

The NPC militia would then set standings for your war targets, or people you have a kill right for, to -10 and attack them anytime they enter systems where that NPC faction or Corp operates?

Run them with the new AI so they are more than just a navy or faction police.

That would seem to achieve what you want and fit in with existing systems.

When have CCP ever demonstrated any aptitude for PvE that isn't a punishment?

That would not:

- add new PvE content
- difficult minmaxing of new PvE content (random missions would be tied to data unknown to the player; FAI, NPCs could react to known fits of the player taking the mission... or not)
- allow player generated PvE content (there would no mission without a player tryign to load a I-NPC, and the mission would be randomzied considering the player generating it, the player targetted and the player undertaking the mission... that's why thorugh testing would be necessary, but that's built in in every procedural/random game system)

I mentioned random generation, and already expanded the concept a bit in my previous post.

You don't know who generated the mission; who is targetted; whether the NPC will react to your usual fittings and their experience with you or don't; and you certianly can kill all NPCs and yet fail the mission.

Using player attributes as seeds instead of purely random seeds should make the system less chaotic and also would make it reactive to player behavior. Keeping the mission allocation double blind would remove predictability.

I disagree with you on most things but this? This adds content and encourages players to be social and work together, as such I consider it to be a reasonable suggestion. +1

Chunks self serving and overly complicated stuff? Not so much.