Player Features and Ideas Discussion

and yet the defender must come to contest the ihub pimple nodes if the single trollceptor succeeds

it's not an option, which is why the trollceptor is so effective

if you don't kill a single person, you have to do clean-up on aisle 10

now scale this out to 20 people and you see where things break down

T1 Entosis Link, cost 20m, 25 km range, 5 minute cycle
T2 Entosis Link cost 80m, 250 km range, 2 minute cycle

It is understood that the initial cycle is in addition to the base period of 10 minutes, so you have to run a whole cycle to start the process. That another link on grid blocks your cycle. Once started the defender has to win the contest to set back to 0, after the 4 hours are up the cycle re-sets to zero unless you have already done so by winning it as a defender. You can only lock to the range of your ship, so 250 km is meaningless for interceptors. You cannot warp, dock or be repped while the link is active and you need to maintain target lock, I have a question on cloaking, I would suggest that you cannot cloak while the module is active.

In terms of an interceptor, I would strongly suggest that this ship will not be able to fit a cloak along with this module. Perhaps we could have a time modifier based on speed of the ship, so that the faster you go the longer you have to be there, starting the speed distortion at 2,500 m/s, so at 5,000 m/s it takes double the time. These adjustments should reduce the lol factor a fair amount.

The issue I have is making sure that it ends up with system defence not region defence, though having to deal with defensive gate camps can be fun, the simple factor is that only T3 strat cruisers are better at dealing with bubble camps, interceptors have to be aware of instant lockers and T3's are costly to lose in terms of SP and ship cost. Of course other cloakies can be used but some sabre pilots are rather good at de-cloaking in bubbles, then we have of course BLOP's but will you put one of them next to a TCU. We of course all know that WH's are another way to get into target space. but is hardly reliable.

Whatever which way I slice and dice it I think that an IHUB in a used system is just too vulnerable, and when you get to level 5's upgrades as people have said too important and difficult to install, that is a serious issue.

I noted that the T2 modules cycle time meshed with the bastion mode of Marauders, so it could be that you make the T2 version fit on only BC's and above.

we're still talking about the initial rf phase; nowhere in this thread have I ever even gone to the scenario where the sov pimples are being fought over

the sov pimples in this discussion strictly serve as the punishment for not dedicating a disproportionate amount of manpower to countering a single trollceptor every single day

WTB trollceptor with 250km lock range.

Honestly, people forget that the default lock range on these things is 20-30km, lol.

do they not have sensor boosters and ionic rigs where you live

You're very welcome, now can you tell me how many jumps an inty can make in 12 minutes to counter your inty who actually thinks it's going to RF something? I seriously want to know how many jumps in 12 minutes.....LOL

The problem with the Entosis link is that it can be fit on every ship, therefore the 'trollceptor' fleets will reinforce every system simultaneously. Other than the aforementioned Deployable Entosis Module, I think the best way is going to be to place several limits on the ship link. These would be:

• Fitting requirements limited to Cruiser above.
• Zero propulsion (like a cyno) while cycle active.
• Penalties to Cap ships.
• Unable to fit with a cloak.
• Unable to fit with an Interdiction module.
• Increased cycle time on module.
• Scrap the vulnerability window so it can be attacked at any time as it is now.
• Allow alliances to set a window for timer exit.

However, as a trade off for Zero propulsion, allow for remote assistance.

What I'm driving towards here is that any ship that is going to hack your sov should need an escort. With an escort spotted in local, it will be recognised as an immediate threat - whether to your sov or not is irrelevant - and leads to confrontation. Confrontation with remote assistance provided to hacking ship should allow for potential escalation. Potential escalation still allows for large fleet battles to occur and for Caps and Supers to maintain a combat role if the escalation goes far enough.

Right now, people usually fight over the timers, not the reinforcement. The new system will add the major fights, where chosen, to the reinforcement with the skirmishes to the timers. Alliances can choose whether to contest the reinforcement or the timers themselves, depending upon where their pilot's skills lie. Contesting Sovereignty will be multi-layered rather than a simple brute force approach.

Occupancy bonus applies as a increase to cycle time/hit chance if system is chance based like ECM (we need clarification on this point).

- Attacker is happy because he gets a fight or gains new space.
- Defender is happy because he's not running around like a blue arse fly playing trollceptors Online.
- Industrialists happy because they still have ships to build and sell.
- Single Time zone alliances happy because they don't have to spend all their play time babysitting systems.
- Minority time zones within alliances happy for the same reasons.

Thoughts?

If the system is worth keeping sov, activity will be there. Which incidentally is all that is needed to stop this interceptor of doom. So you see, it works out. Any systems a group can't be bothered to be active in will be shed and a group who will bother being active in said system during their prime time will take it.

Thus, working as intended. Why is this so hard to comprehend?

The problem with interceptors being fitted with the Entosis isn't the couple troll ceptors that will be going around space.

It is the fact that a good 40 of them can leave the system of Amarr in Highsec and they can literally be deep in Cobalt Edge or Esoteria within 15-20 mins. Due to being interdiction nullified, they can move very quickly throughout new eden on short notice.

I believe that this would not be an issue some years ago when interceptors were not interdiction nullified. Having strategically places bubbles on gates should be a viable method of defending your space by giving some time to see the attack coming.

GIGO ^^