Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So with all the capital hate thats going on lately, be it from fighter/bomber scan res nerf, to no more assist, no skynet and warps, give us something to do with our shinies.

All you naysayers of capitals and no risk versus reward hear me out...

Let caps/supers use acceleration gates and dock. no, no hear me out.

1) Acceleration gates. What were the two main blocks for capitals to go into incursions? I mean other than no capitals in highsec. Cyno jammed systems and acceration gates into deadspace. Well cyno jams are meaningless now, we can just gate to gate into the incursion system. Second is acceleration gates.

If CCP allows capitals to use acceleration gates what will that do? It will allow us to do nullsec/lowsec incursions AND escalations. What does that mean for the naysayers? MOAR content. You want more opportunities to hunt ratting carriers? There you go. Carriers in the 3rd room of the Blood 10/10 taking huge amounts of damage from that tower and the mass of battleships will be hard pressed to escape when you come in with your hunting party. HUGE risk. Decent rewards from those 10/10's... Incursions present a different angle, that nullsec mom offers the biggest reward of all, the Revenant BPC. GARGANTUAN Reward GARGANTUAN risk.

Throw us a bone CCP, you want to take all the positives away from carriers? OK we can't stop you, but throw me a freakin bone!

2) Docking in station. This is going to gather probably 6000 "No, just plain no" statements. Well again, listen. If you allow capitals to dock, it will allow those space coffin dwellers a chance to get out of them for one thing and be able to pee vee pee in other stuff. But it will also make those station and sov conquer mechanics more valuable wont they? You still have freeport mode, and that gives an attacker an opportunity to bring in their own capital fleet with a place to put them for good fights. Honestly, I would just like an opportunity to let the damn thing rust and not worry about it for awhile. I mean come on, if you are taking away all usefulness of the stupid things let us drydock them and walk away.

Either give us something to do with them, or give us a way to walk away.

Let the flaming begin.

Keep fighter asist as fighters are god damn piloted by PILOTS!!! it makes sence that they do what you tell them to do like a group of newbies in frigs

Also regarding carriers fighters they should work while carrier is in triage theres no logical reason for them to stop moving when their PILOTED unlike drones.


Remove drone asist or penalize it as you give someone drones and his ship with tiny or none bandwith sudenly has XXXXX DPS from sentrys in one voley. Make those lazy ishtar players target and shoot things
if not removing drone asist penalize it for each drone asisted it would take 0,2-1 sec depending on skills to start attacking as the signal or targeting data is transfered to 50 drones that are being asisted

but fighters are self suficient warp capable ships with their own pilots. No reason for them to get powered down or return to base

It's the way they are; triage requires all drones return to the ship.

I would say Fighter Assist would be by Bandwidth on ship, but that would be unfair for some ships.
So i will say Fighter Assist would be by the size of ship:
1 frigate
2 destroyer
3 cruiser
4 battlecruiser
and 5 Battleship.

liking the idea of removing the restriction on low sec and 0.0 acceleration gates for all capitals and super capitals.
after removing pretty much every role supers have will give them something to log in for at least

There are very few people who support skynetting from the pvp perspective (might be some disguised posts) there is a not insignificant number of posters who use fighter assignment to make their isk either ratting in null or C4 wormholes (C5 upwards tend to take advantage of capital escalations) hence suggesting weaker nerfs.

There is a good way to nerf the worst elements of skynet into the ground with minimal knock on effect or feature removal but I'm beginning to think most people don't understand what I've been suggesting and others only care to see it gone completely whatever the consequences.

^^ C5 and upwards caps on field due to the escalation (C4s don't escalate) - C4 people "tend" (its not common but not completely uncommon either*) to sit the carrier outside the FF and assign fighters to a marauder (or tengu) in site to speed things up. Its unusual for people to build more than 1 maybe 2 capitals in a C4 due to being unable to extract them.



* People who do it don't generally make it known they do it so as not to draw attention to their capitals.

Wouldn't it work to have carriers anchor when they have fighters assigned and combine that with a minimum distance from a pos or station and if that isn't enough limit assigning fighters to cruisers and larger ships. The anchor feature could have a cool down time after the fighters return or are abandoned.

Actually kind of like the idea of a bastion style (duration/weapons timer) module for fighter delegation - if it included some other bonuses as well (NOT to tracking or damage heh). It would still need to be coupled with some tweaks so fighters couldn't blap smaller ships though.