Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Just to eccho someone else who thought the same thing. Make it impossible to delegate fighters/fighter bomberinos near pos. For supers that would be very effective. That would mean that supers would have to be at a safe 1000km off aligned to pos. and we all know how easy it would be for a hictor to probe can andd bubble before it got it's fighter bombers back into drone bay.

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Ok, than i was lucky for unknown reason.

But i was scared as eve tired to tell me my 15 Fighters are gone and i actually scanned them 3 AU of the Station.
I also saw on the forums which you will not get them back through an support Ticket.

I personally don´t see a problem with any kind of offgrid support.

But (always wait for the but :P)



CCP don't provide tools against it. Following are Ideas which solving the problem from another side.
These Ideas are ideas and maybe very very OP on their clear facts

Stuff which may "help" to solve the "none" existing skynet problem.

• A anti-drone Module, either by disabling the ability of a single ship to use drones or limit the bandwidth.

I have really no idea as i still unable to locate the Problem
Other Problems

• A anti-boosting bubble, all boosts are disabled in this area. (Friendly and unfriendly)
• Counter Boosts, against other fleets by interfering with something the ship has a malfunction which increase X

The point i want to reach with this is there are stuff in the game which you cannot counter and this is maybe good.
But as i love complexity i want more features, more tactics possibilities etc..

There is still many exploits you can do without being next to a POS force field.

I don't think there is anyone here who supports the mechanics that allow for the skynet thing or a very small number if there is, most people don't want to see another huge feature nerf/removal that affects a wider spread of uses including non-pvp use due to the actions of a few.

I don´t see skynet as an problem. Also the mentioned Risk / Reward is totally ok, as if you want to kill a carrier you either bring a titan,super or a bigger subcap fleet which again comes to the point if nobody of the involved parts sees an advantage where no advantage is there will be no battle.

To be clear:

The removal of this feature will not increase the amount of battles as the most small gangs are totally unable to kill a carrier or even get through the active tank. So they will run away once they see a capital on Dscan or badphone for more people.

Unfortunately only a view people try to address the issue which it looks like there is a huge problem with the POS Mechanics and the Factor to be brave and make a drive by with a titan.

Still i have problems to understand the problem with skynet as all features are given to kill a carrier... I think there are much more features which are unreasonable accepted regarding the risk / reward scheme.

There is also the proclivity of the ENTIRE sector to dogpile - which no-one does for a mere pirate battleship. But that's because they are so rare, it becomes self-fulfilling.

The problems are psychological. I mean, let's take for example a common RnK hotdrop: 3 nestors, probably deadspace/faction fit. Half a dozen vindis in the same position, various other bits and bobs. I'd be willing to bet that the nestors alone would have an almost comparable cost to "cheaper" (i.e. not pimped) archons but are far squisher.

The barriers are purely in players minds - though you're right to mention the logistics of replacement, but that's not the end of the world.

I'd understand it more if there was skill point loss, nobody wants to retrain carrier V!

For me, I'm looking at it objectively, ignoring the cost and train (because that's NEVER a balance point - perhaps more specifically never a justification to something being broken) - imagine the reaction if high sec mission bears asked to project DPS from offgrid in essentially complete safety (given sufficient planning)? It would be an outrage - and rightly so.

The other acid test is - if these didn't exist today but people proposed adding them - what would the reaction be? You and I both know the answer to that.

Very much so, if you consider it a carrier only thing.

However....."Gecko V2.0 - Super heavy drone 50m3, can be assigned to off grid fleet mates, battleship only drone".

Same mechanic, cost and skill time irrelevant (as they ought to be)...you honestly think people would go for that? I seriously doubt it.

That discussion is not very relevant I don't think.

The fact is that we have this awesome feature, had it for years. Sure it's not very balanced and definitely needs tweaking, but removing is not the answer. As I hope to God, CCP can guess if they count the replies to this thread.

The problem with the figher assists is that the carrier can't be killed, apart from a very lucky and welltimed drive-by.
If this is changed I think the feature is perfectly balanced.
Sure the fighters will still be powerful, but that is no different than a frigate being less powerful than a well-fit/well-flown destroyer or cruiser that is specifically designed to kill those frigates.

*Grabs popcorn and waits for the crying*