Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Just remove drone assist

Fighter mechanic that I would be okay with:

You can still assign Fighters, but only if you are on grid with whatever you are assigned the Fighters to. Remove assign entirely if this is too hard to code cause ~Legacy POS code~.

Fighters do not follow their targets in to warp like they currently do. You shouldn't be able to Damage something that isn't on grid with you.

If you warp out, Fighters will follow you.

If you jump out, rip your Fighters.

+1

Especially the bolded part. Just spitballing here, but in addition to not being able to deploy fighters near POSs or stations (and taking away bonuses from assigned fighters), maybe a 'siege-like' module that has to be activated for ships to assign fighters, that locks the carrier or SC in place for at least 5 minutes. And/Or 'recieving ship' bandwidth limitations (if a ship has no drone bay, it can't use fighters, if a ship can deploy 5 sentries it can accept 5 fighters etc, which kills small ship 'Skynetting').

I don't know how much of a nightmare that would be from a programming stand point so I offer the above with a big grain of layman's salt lol, but the point is CCP should be making things more interesting, not less.

Remove off grid fighter assign.

Simple.

this change makes me so happy

Some interesting points there, one down side is that a siege/bastion like module would take away a drone control unit slot but tying fighters to some kind of bastion like mode would make them more interesting and give potential for more balanced ways of making them a little less meh outside of skynet type use.

Having them only get bonuses when assigned by activating some kind of bastion like module would be a solution to a fair few issues without a ridiculous nerf though I'm not hugely in favour of it.

EDIT: I guess as a compromise for off grid use it wouldn't be so bad as you could still fit for 15 fighters when doing stuff ongrid just lose the extra slot when assigning - the game should always be about making a choice and/or compromise not about flat out nerf batting.

EDIT2:

i.e. purely for illustration purposes something like:

[Fighter Command Processor] - works fairly much like bastion mode including timers and local self rep (can't be fitted with triage), enables fighter assignment, increases fighter tracking (with a corresponding decrease in base), increases durability, can't be activated within x km of POS or station.

Just remove assist entirely and leave in Fighter warping. Assist has always been a pretty terrible mechanic anyway.

Carriers and supers are way too slow to make having to chase down abandoned Fighters from warping off anything but a huge hassle, and while it's annoying sometimes if they follow some one off grid it's also a pretty unique and lore-consistent behavior (as they are supposed to essentially be piloted frigates).

If someone doesn't want their fighters to follow, there's already settings for that so no need to remove that from people that occasionally do- whether to score that follow through kill or to make shooting targets within the same system but not grid less annoying.

Keep fighter warping.

I've killed more than one off-grid target after they initially escaped and then warped to a celestial.

Quick drone return when fighting something on grid, but hundreds of kilometers away.

Being able to leave grid without having to wait for your fighters to return.

Just remove the Fighter/Fighter Bomber Assist. I don't see anything broken risk/reward wise with fighters warping and following a target. It just makes them unique in that regard.

Fighters are not OP when they are not bonuses from drone mods. Why not simply remove drone module effects to assigned Fighters. So when fighters are assigned they only get ship hulls bonus..


This feels a lot like nerfing out of spite.. Assisting fighters has it's positives it seems wrong to remove a mechanic simply because few incompetent people can't setup a trap.