Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Let get this straight. You post a Scope Video about Carriers getting killed by rats and now you are nerfing them?

WTS Useless Cap Pilot.

Having capital friends and seeing how OP carrier fighters are I agree that they should NOT be assignable unless the carrier is on grid with the rest of the fleet. Now if this is what CCP is has in mind that is fine but keep fighters ability to warp because if a carrier is warping off it doesn't always have time to recall drones and fighters are expensive!!!!! Also if not assignable off grid please let drones be used in triage.

Would it be possible to remove the fighters ability to warp and still set them to assist. This way a carrier could still provide off grid support but they would have to warp in to deploy fighters, set them to assist and then warp away thus exposing the carrier pilot to the risk of being pinned down. Having the fighters unable to warp away would mean that if the person who's designated as the assist warped off then the fighters would be stranded thus risking their destruction unless the carrier returned to retrieve them.

This solution would allow the assist mechanic and their remote application to still be used but would force the pilot to expose themselves away from a control tower or station. Also if the fighters can't warp off with the carrier so what no other drones warp off either and they get left behind so they should have to recall them just like every thing else does as its already an established mechanic and would be easy for people to get used to.

Oh but their expensive.. so the **** what? you can risk your fighters or you can risk your carrier pick one the choice should be an easy one. Besides in most every movie I've ever seen where the fighters miss their chance to dock before the carrier jumps or warps off their left to die how should this be any different?

Remove carrier bonuses from fighter not on grid with the carrier. Decreasing the DPS available unless the carrier is willing to risk it.,

Ships assisted by fighters are highlighted in the overview or are obvious to others in some fashion. Transfer some of the risk to the pilot being assisted by the fighters.

The Assignment of fighters can only happen on grid. The fighters will followed the assigned ship off grid or into warp. The goal here is to force the the assisted ship to initially be on grid with the carrier. This encourages carriers to be on grid to switch who they assist as fast as possible.

This would encourage carriers to leave the protection of POS and impacts skynet situations while leaving other uses reasonably untouched.

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If you have a super fighter cost means nothing, You are in 0 danger with this method they can cyno in w/e they want to.

Pro-tip we have more than one screen or a screen fx from aero of the skynet carrier/super there is never a point that someone competent is not paying attention.[/quote]

Gotcha. What do you recon about the whole thing?

Yeah when do WE get Drifter Doomsdays to put on Tengus?

That's the way to do it, delete Capitals, make everyone fly noobships with doomsdays. PROBLEM SOLVED.

I like that fighters can be assisted to other ships off-grid. It fits with what I think of when I think about carriers: Long damage projection.

Rather than being able to task them to any ship in the game, limit the choices to those that make sense. These ships would include other carriers (obviously), command ships and maybe recon ships. Others could include dreadnaughts and maybe titans depending on balance.

Along with this, limit how many can be tasked to the different ships, either inherently and/or by new high-slot modules. The recons could maybe handle 3-5, the command ships 5-10 and the capitals could handle more. If you go the module route, one high slot module gives the ability to handle up to 5 fighters, but no more than the class's maximum.

Lastly, make a radius limit from shields because shield harmonics interfere with fighter control signals or something. A tasked carrier could also pop up as a warpable signature when it has fighters assisted out because of all its broadcast power being used.

With this, we get to keep the unique ability for fighters to warp, there is more risk by having to have more expensive ships on-grid to handle the assisted fighters and the carriers get shoved out further into space with a big "kick me" sign making them vulnerable.

From what i recall fighter bombers can't be assigned to another ship and it should stay that way.

If you are going to make Carriers fight on grid, make boosters boost on-grid.

Risk vs. Reward, right?

From just a cursory view of the posts it looks like we have 3 camps, CCP.

1) Kill assist (probably the lowest set)

2) Adjust assist - either to class or range or make tweaks (probably the highest)

3) Leave it alone - as is the mechanic is viable (in the middle)


It sounds to me like it's only a small minority who want to kill it, and the majority only sees assist as a minor issue.

If someone however would like to do the actual math on that I'd be ok with it.

If it turns out that this is true, please do the right thing; take a step back and either leave it alone for now to re-examine later, or do something you have never done before....COMPROMISE.

Oh and BTW, RIP Leonard Nimoy.