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Let me tell you why people are killing highsec miners. A manifesto.

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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#101 - 2011-12-02 09:42:56 UTC
Short version (Babyseal edition):
- Miners don't shoot back, they are in fact rarely armed.
- They provide a killmail.
- Null monkeys, who are the most frequent gankers, are bored out of their minds in their home with bright blue walls on all sides.

Don't try to make more of it than it is. Give a child a magnifying glass and mention you saw an anthill nearby .. human behaviour is not rocket science.
Imryn Xaran
Coherent Light Enterprises
#102 - 2011-12-02 09:51:21 UTC
Never has so much crap been piled in one place. OP should be banned for littering.

I particularly like the bits where he knows exactly what other people are thinking and exactly what they would do if they could. With psychic abilities like that he is wasting his talents here.

Pity he doesn't have the guts to post with his main, so we could all see exactly who this tard is.
Imryn Xaran
Coherent Light Enterprises
#103 - 2011-12-02 10:00:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Imryn Xaran
McRoll wrote:
1)

3) There seriously needs to be a complete mining redesign. It needs to be more interactive and it should involve some skill and/or knowledge in order to get the most isk out of it. That way people would actually play the game while mining and not just wait until the cycle completes. If CCP would do that, they can consider revamping missions as well (like adding Sleeper AI at least)


This is a very good point, and I wholeheartedly agree with it.

That is what people should be demanding from CCP; that is what the CSM should be hammering home; that is what mittens should be spending his time on.

Problem is that it isn't happening. Sure people have been asking for changes for some time, but the CSM isn't doing anything, and mittens is too busy suicide ganking (and paying others to suicide gank) to do anything.

Unfortunately miners pay subs and that is CCP's language. If the ganking reaches a level where CCP see a fall in subs as a result they will nerf ganking. Why? Because they can see cause and effect. Nobody is telling them how to fix the problems so they will fix the symptoms.
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2011-12-02 10:00:34 UTC
I approve this message.

This is also a perfect example why EVE is Different. Those who play it like other games cannot understand EVE and go off the deep end with rage when they are introduced to the grim aspects of it. It is more of a reflection of the real society we have in the western world today - laws, social norms, police... we all take them for granted and rely on the protection they offer, to a degree that acts that are similar to what miner suicide ganks are in EVE become totally alien and incomprehensible. "Why would anyone do something like that?"

Of course the vast majority who read this thread probably give up 1-2 posts in and fail to understand the point. It makes me feel sad about humanity in general.
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#105 - 2011-12-02 10:09:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Seleia O'Sinnor
I laughed, too self righteous and populist. Another attention troll working hard, seems to work though.:)

I don't care for the gankers nor for the miners. If the miners are all gone, and hopefully no more minerals drops from drones, then I wonder how much a Rifter would be?

This sandbox can be broken.

If you compare Eve to human evolution I guess we are still in the medieval times not working with swords but laser cannons. It would be very interesting how Eve would evolve if there wasn't any hisec and no local. There are no consequences in this game.

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.
Stonecold Steve
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#106 - 2011-12-02 10:15:41 UTC
i wonder what the prices to build stuff would rise to when we loose all of these machine man..

“Hasta la muerte, todo es vida.”
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#107 - 2011-12-02 10:29:44 UTC
What is this about?

I ran out of day! /o\

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Kyle Yanowski
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#108 - 2011-12-02 10:41:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Kyle Yanowski
Look mate,

If your mug was so prominently displayed to the left of every bile filled paragraph, I would have assumed this was written by space H I T L E R himself.

This way of thinking only discourages NEW BLOOD from staying in Eve for the duration. Like myself, a new player understands that there are limitations to what can be accomplished in anything other than highsec.... limitations that are only lifted when SP reaches something above 5 million.

Get a life, you and the mittani, a target something that fights back.

cheers.

-ski

Host of the High Drag Eve Online Podcast ( http://highdrag.wordpress.com). Director of Aideron Robotics.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#109 - 2011-12-02 10:43:08 UTC
Hirana Yoshida wrote:
Short version (Babyseal edition):
- Miners don't shoot back, they are in fact rarely armed.
- They provide a killmail.
- Null monkeys, who are the most frequent gankers, are bored out of their minds in their home with bright blue walls on all sides.

Don't try to make more of it than it is. Give a child a magnifying glass and mention you saw an anthill nearby .. human behaviour is not rocket science.


This.

Intelligent people see the complex in the simple.
Wise people see the simple in the complex.

If you are corrupt it's better to be intelligent because you can remember everything wise people say and fake wisdom.
Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#110 - 2011-12-02 10:47:42 UTC

The only sad part of removing mining from asteroid belts in EVE would be the loss of tears from miners who think what they're doing is actually profitable. I had a dude in my corp who's sole purpose in EVE was to run a mining corporation and lead up a group of the most efficient mineral harvesters in EVE. The dude had a hulk that got killed one day and he never stopped crying about how that hulk, which he had for over 3 months was literally all of his isk.

I can make enough isk to buy a fleet of hulks in a couple hours not mining dude, why do you torture yourself like this?




Oh, before you ask where the minerals would come from; that's easy. They'd be harvested in compressed blocks from blank moons which hold no current valuable resources.

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement
Aerilis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2011-12-02 10:49:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Aerilis
I have no idea whether I just read the most brilliant self-satirizing troll novel ever, or the extended rantings of a seriously deluded and ******** individual. Either way, color me entertained :3

edit: it also seems like nobody in this thread has any understanding of economics :/
Seaxe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#112 - 2011-12-02 10:54:40 UTC
Eve Antonovich wrote:


Thanks. I mine and gank - does that make me a half-bot, or just confused?


bot-curious
Meow Galore
Doomheim
#113 - 2011-12-02 11:07:17 UTC
Brilliant read. You really managed to capture the feeling of egotistical-lunatic-with-a-messiah-complex beautifully.

You should start the Society for Cutting Up Miners.
Tyrrax Thorrk
Guiding Hand Social Club
#114 - 2011-12-02 11:08:09 UTC
I like highsec ganking in general and think it's hilarious how much goons managed to mess up the price of oxygen isotopes. :)

However OP is full of the stupid, some of it's witty and eloquent and I liked the story part, but overall wow you're really stupid if that's not just fail trolling.

Speaking of stupid, cry more about wall of text you bunch of pathetic illiterates.
Prince Kobol
#115 - 2011-12-02 11:09:45 UTC
Ethzera wrote:
An interesting read which succeeded in inverting my opinion of highsec miners and the gankers who target them.

Though this entire thread is going to be just people commenting on the sheer number of words, as if they've never read a book before in their life.



I read lot of the books.. the difference is that Books are interesting and the OP isn't.
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#116 - 2011-12-02 11:09:56 UTC
OP needs a long stay at a mental health facility in a room with padded walls
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Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#117 - 2011-12-02 11:14:31 UTC
Kyle Yanowski wrote:
Look mate,

If your mug was so prominently displayed to the left of every bile filled paragraph, I would have assumed this was written by space H I T L E R himself.

This way of thinking only discourages NEW BLOOD from staying in Eve for the duration. Like myself, a new player understands that there are limitations to what can be accomplished in anything other than highsec.... limitations that are only lifted when SP reaches something above 5 million.

Get a life, you and the mittani, a target something that fights back.

cheers.

-ski


I laughed!

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#118 - 2011-12-02 11:16:53 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Nikola Aivoras wrote:
Ethzera wrote:
Nikola Aivoras wrote:
I suppose you believe the people who tell you the grass is purple, even though you see that it is clearly green?

At least I have the capacity to accept that things may not be as they seem. Just because you see green grass doesn't mean it's truly green, or that it's even really there. But this is a philosophical discussion for another time.


Spare me the new-age philosophical crap. It's a way for relativists to justify their actions when they can't find a reason in the real world. After all, the world is really an illusion, right?



Plato isn't really "new age". He's about as "old age" as it gets.


Funny that I remember Plato specifically argued against that kind of relativism and the sophists who used it. Just saying.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#119 - 2011-12-02 11:31:32 UTC
Let's see...

-1 for lack of originality (Lyris Nairn does this better)
-1 for brazen, unashamed fellatio of Mittani and Karrttoon...really mate, we don't need to know, OK? Please keep it discreetUgh
-2 for retreading--yet again--BoB vs. Goons--it's ancient ******* history, OK, no-one who was around then who still is now ******* cares anymore, and if those who don't know, did, they wouldn't either FFS...
-1 for actually believing suicide-ganking requires skill, and this bottom-feeding of free, AFK targets is some kind of achievement worth mentioning
-5 for actually wasting time to write that much...on the Internet! What are you on, man (and could you share?)Roll

+1 for actually getting me to read it all, regardless (the rest of you--7240 words is ****-all--what, do you Internet-kiddies have the attention-spans of gnats? But then I'm old school--I actually still read books--novel-length paper ones, even--for enjoyment/edification...Roll)

So, net assessment: 1/10, briefly amusing before devolving into the usual Goon-drivel, wouldn't read again.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Marcus Harikari
#120 - 2011-12-02 11:32:01 UTC
I am a high-sec carebear miner. Bring it.