EVE General Discussion

Example number 2 of how denial warps a persons brain. There is no correlation what-so-ever between PVP play style and disliking the idea of EVE being contaminated by useless avatar play.

WiS PVP would be completely detrimental to the game even if gankers could gank. In space, gankers ganking ships helps the economy by helping create and maintain need for the things PVE players produce (minerals to build more ships, modules to fit on to newly built ships etc). How would WiS pvp beneift the game, by making people go "oh wow, need a new shirt because this one is bloody, better get some Aurum"?

What you want would screw people like me (mission runners and anomaly farmers) who depend on the demand created by PVP (including gankers). And for what, so you can pretend to drink a beer while sitting in a virtual space station looking out a window at a virtual planet? At the bottom of all of this is the WiS advocates' unending selfishness.

You can't seem to understand that some people don't play games for the same reason you do. You want to be 'immersed' in something and that's fine. I don't , for the same reasons I don't like VR and won't be playing Valkyrie (I like to know what world I am actually occupying at all times).

The primary objection to WIS is that CCP does not have the resources to implement it, without cannibalizing resources from spaceship violence development.

All other arguments are philosophical, and have no bearing in the realm of realistic changes we can expect in the game. You want to wish for a unicorn sighting? Fine. Just don't expect someone to take it seriously.

Edit: clarified my first statement.

So, lets copy what a failed game did (DUST) instead of sticking with what we know is a winning and sustainable (for more than a decade) formula (EVE).

That idea is brilliant, when didn't we think of that earlier? Also, how many player made plasma rifles will it take to equal the loss of one player made Rifter?

If WiS types were the more realistic sort, you all might have been able to make a cogent and compelling argument that would have not only swayed skeptics like me, but also CCP. That you cannot demonstrates that the biggest roadblock to WiS isn't folks like me, or CCP, or even financial and technical reality, but rather the unrealistic and denial-ridden people who currently support it.

No. Jenn aSide steadfastly sticks to what ever they perceive as more macho or in their own interests. Their ego prevents them from accepting the many arguments set forth in this and many other threads.

They are here to make a lot of words and feel self important, not actually achieve anything. "Forum PVP" is their purpose of writing here and as such I pretty much always ignore them and often read the others posts more throughly. They are like a barometer, if they are replying to someone then there is probably something good that is being trolled.

So, not /thread at all.

Look at yourself, i mean really. You accuse me of "trolling" (ie being not genuine aka lying in order to get an emotional response from someone for the purpose of self entertainment) simply because I'm telling you the truth when you don't want to hear it.

The truth here is that I am winning already, even if I were prone to trolling I wouldn't need to lol, CCP is firmly not doing "in EVe WiS" now or in the foreseeable future.
I'm not telling you this so that you feel bad. I telling you this because it's true, I don't get any jollies from the idea that some human being with internet access that I will probably never meet is sitting at a computer being mad because a game company won't modify their software in a way he desires lol.

TL;DR, I'm not the crazy one here, it's you lot.

If it makes you feel better to ignore what I'm telling you and pretend that it's trolling, feel free. But deep down you know you're lying about it.

Oh and on a side note, a sense of responsibility and self reliance (even in a video game), and not believing that people who voluntarily choose to play a video game are some how 'victims' of something isn't being 'macho', it's being an adult. You may give it a swing someday, you might even get the less than 150 account holder (out of 400,000 potential supporters) who voted for you for CSM to help you.

Yes that last part was an intended swipe, can't lie about that

Kids.

Not mentally.

You can go dig up the post, I said before the results were announced that I will not run again next year win or lose. The Fozzie Logic SOV that is on the table with feedback being ignored I am glad to have no part of that.

Maybe even special materials that can only be found exploring specific locations planetside. That way the walking and shooting becomes economically meaningful.