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Luna Le Fey
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#701 - 2015-04-08 13:06:15 UTC
I don' t know if this thread has just gotten to the point where everyone is just trolling or if they really expect pvp in WiS.

All I wanted was a place to do something while waiting for a fleet to form, or sell/buy orders to complete ect, like gamble or some mini games, instead I'm supposed to be content with ship spinning.
Although I've all but given up ever expecting to see WiS, instead ccp seems determined to invest in things that either will obviously be failures or have no impact on the eve universe at all
Dust, oh yes cause we totally needed another shooter, I couldn't have been less interested in anything when the last big shooter came out, so why would I be interested in Dust ?
And now Valkyrie, sure I'll admit it looks neat, but that's it, it will almost certainly still be a failure not only because it will have no impact on this universe but more the fact that hardly anyone owns a Rift.

Anyways, that's just my 2 cents.
Lan Wang
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#702 - 2015-04-08 13:10:11 UTC
Luna Le Fey wrote:
I don' t know if this thread has just gotten to the point where everyone is just trolling or if they really expect pvp in WiS.

All I wanted was a place to do something while waiting for a fleet to form, or sell/buy orders to complete ect, like gamble or some mini games, instead I'm supposed to be content with ship spinning.
Although I've all but given up ever expecting to see WiS, instead ccp seems determined to invest in things that either will obviously be failures or have no impact on the eve universe at all
Dust, oh yes cause we totally needed another shooter, I couldn't have been less interested in anything when the last big shooter came out, so why would I be interested in Dust ?
And now Valkyrie, sure I'll admit it looks neat, but that's it, it will almost certainly still be a failure not only because it will have no impact on this universe but more the fact that hardly anyone owns a Rift.

Anyways, that's just my 2 cents.


iwantisk, evebet, crink, eve poker, teamspeak, mumble etc etc, hardly anyone owns a rift because they are not mainstream available yet :/

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Luna Le Fey
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#703 - 2015-04-08 13:16:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Luna Le Fey
Yea true, and I get that the team working on something like Valkyrie is only a tiny one so they're not taking anything away from eve, but even so, they could at least put a small team on WiS as well, from what I understand they've just stopped working on it completely.

I guess I just find it odd how eve has become this game that I play while doing something else, like playing another game or watching a film.
Lan Wang
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#704 - 2015-04-08 13:22:01 UTC
there is so much to do from even the links ive added above which does not require wis because it would bring no advantage to the game, only rp, everything in game can be done via quicker methods and people would realise this a couple of days after wis and revert back to the old ways leaving wis mostly a waste of time.

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Chibi Katana
Division 13
#705 - 2015-04-08 13:27:49 UTC
Luna Le Fey wrote:
I don' t know if this thread has just gotten to the point where everyone is just trolling or if they really expect pvp in WiS.

Reached that point a loooong time ago. Though PVP in WiS is a seperate issue imo.

Honestly not even worth trying to respond to stuff in a thread like this. It's just people who cannot stand to allow others to get excited about a concept they're not into. They'll spend hours trying to beat you up over it here, saving you from yourself, because that's what they like to do while waiting for fleets to form etc.

Luna Le Fey wrote:
Anyways, that's just my 2 cents.

I agree with your 2 cents.
Luna Le Fey
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#706 - 2015-04-08 13:31:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Luna Le Fey
Lan Wang wrote:
there is so much to do from even the links ive added above which does not require wis because it would bring no advantage to the game, only rp, everything in game can be done via quicker methods and people would realise this a couple of days after wis and revert back to the old ways leaving wis mostly a waste of time.


Yea I guess you're right, as much as I'd like to rp in this game (and i know there's corps and alliances out there that do) it's just not going to get to that point, oh well.
Lan Wang
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#707 - 2015-04-08 13:35:09 UTC
Chibi Katana wrote:
Luna Le Fey wrote:
I don' t know if this thread has just gotten to the point where everyone is just trolling or if they really expect pvp in WiS.

Reached that point a loooong time ago. Though PVP in WiS is a seperate issue imo.

Honestly not even worth trying to respond to stuff in a thread like this. It's just people who cannot stand to allow others to get excited about a concept they're not into. They'll spend hours trying to beat you up over it here, saving you from yourself, because that's what they like to do while waiting for fleets to form etc.

Luna Le Fey wrote:
Anyways, that's just my 2 cents.

I agree with your 2 cents.


you cannot stand that people do not like your concept Roll

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Luna Le Fey
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#708 - 2015-04-08 13:36:20 UTC
lol everyone can dream can't they ! *runs of crying*
Chibi Katana
Division 13
#709 - 2015-04-08 13:40:03 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Chibi Katana wrote:
Luna Le Fey wrote:
I don' t know if this thread has just gotten to the point where everyone is just trolling or if they really expect pvp in WiS.

Reached that point a loooong time ago. Though PVP in WiS is a seperate issue imo.

Honestly not even worth trying to respond to stuff in a thread like this. It's just people who cannot stand to allow others to get excited about a concept they're not into. They'll spend hours trying to beat you up over it here, saving you from yourself, because that's what they like to do while waiting for fleets to form etc.

Luna Le Fey wrote:
Anyways, that's just my 2 cents.

I agree with your 2 cents.


you cannot stand that people do not like your concept Roll

Not at all. I enjoy discussing it.

Just don't see the point in wasting my time sitting around arguing with folks who display your logic.

EVE's about fun, and that's not fun for me. Might be for you though.
Jenn aSide
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#710 - 2015-04-08 13:50:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Chibi Katana wrote:
It's just people who cannot stand to allow others to get excited about a concept they're not into.


That is a very self serving way to look at it, but it's not true. No one cares what you are into (even if it is silly as hell, i reemeber someone posting in this thread about how cool it would be to have a 'hanger briefing' or some such, what would that evne look like, a bunch of eggs (pods) rolled up next to each other in a hanger?)

We care what this basically tiny "one real IP" (EVE) game company spends it's time doing. Some of us lived through the BS that was incarna and the 18 month flying in space development black hole that preceded it, and simply don't want anything like that to ever happen again.

The idea the CCP should risk (even in a tiny way, 1 DEV working on WiS is too much) doing that again so that some RP type can drink a beer he can't taste in a bar that doesn't exist is a real BS way to think IMO.
Chibi Katana
Division 13
#711 - 2015-04-08 13:52:59 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Chibi Katana wrote:
It's just people who cannot stand to allow others to get excited about a concept they're not into.


That is a very self serving way to look at it, but it's not true. No one cares what you are into (even if it is silly as hell, i reemeber someone posting in this thread about how cool it would be to have a 'hanger briefing' or some such, what would that evne look like, a bunch of eggs (pods) rolled up next to each other in a hanger?)

We care how this basically tiny "one real IP" game company spends it's time doing. Some of us lived through the BS that was incarna and the 18 month flying in space development black hole that preceded it, and simply don't want anything like that to ever happen again.

The idea the CCP should risk (even in a tiny way, 1 DEV working on WiS is too much) doing that again so that some RP type can drink a beer he can't taste in a bar that doesn't exist is a real BS way to think IMO.

Ok. Smile
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#712 - 2015-04-08 14:07:16 UTC
Luna Le Fey wrote:
I don' t know if this thread has just gotten to the point where everyone is just trolling or if they really expect pvp in WiS.


I'm not trolling. It fits the general theme, and the last avatar gameplay prototype that CCP mocked up featured PVP.

I'm also OK with things like corporate areas and bars (though, the seedier the bar the higher the chance of PVP, right? ;-)), but corporate areas in particular would need a whole bunch of extra work in order to be useful enough to justify. If it's just a bunch of avatars sitting in a room around a table running through their default animation cycle, that's not terribly interesting, is it? And if it's like the CQ, where it's actually harder to access services than it is outside the CQ and for some reason they made it difficult to sit on a couch, then it will be the niche-iest of niche features.

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Dextrome Thorphan
Gallente Federation
#713 - 2015-04-08 14:52:10 UTC
Kestrix wrote:
The PvP'ers in this game want to keep it small and have CCP pander totally to them. they are like spoilt children craving mummy's attention all the time and every time mummy tries to do some thing else they have a crying sissy fit until she mollifies them.

Walking in stations was something new, a breath of fresh air for eve online and an opportunity to make the game more appealing to a broader group of potential customers.

The people that objected to "walking in stations" are blind to the fact that making the game more appealing to a broader customer base swells the number of paying customers on the server both giving CCP increased revenue and them more characters to shoot.

I just hope that walking in stations was just put on hold and not canceled all together


Players had nothing to do with CCP screwing up WiS... everyone was waiting patiently for an asburd long time and all they were working on was a new character creator, which is nice don't get me wrong, but it didn't contribute to gameplay in any way.

And then they dropped the whole thing and started developping 3 other games :p
Velarra
#714 - 2015-04-08 14:53:50 UTC
Woodman2 wrote:
I was gone from EVE for a couple of years due to my health, I am now back and wondering what happened to walking around in the station? It was the next big thing when I left.


More serious question...what happened to the Ambulation project Torfie was promoting and talking about with videos and impressive demo's a little while ago?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#715 - 2015-04-08 15:28:22 UTC
(Going off a page back)
There is a possible drawback. CCP might decide to use Dust engine including movement mechanics and then push that into WiS and Legion, so we would have this awful jerky motion with weak camera following to compensate for a controller that we do not use.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#716 - 2015-04-08 15:37:03 UTC
What WiS really will bring doesn't seem to strike anyone:

Rule 34 wrote:
No exceptions.


Most people dkn't even consider the idea of how much power
WiS will put into the hands of a few people ...

... and how prostitution would flourish!
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Jenshae Chiroptera
#717 - 2015-04-08 16:00:24 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:
... and how prostitution would flourish!
*Sigh* Closet Second Lifers and their obsessions. P

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#718 - 2015-04-08 16:22:27 UTC
Velarra wrote:
More serious question...what happened to the Ambulation project Torfie was promoting and talking about with videos and impressive demo's a little while ago?

“A little while ago” was 7 years ago…

It was unceremoniously trashed and restarted from scratch (twice) due to massive scope creep, lack of planning, and abysmal management. Then the entire staff was laid off and the whole idea abandoned.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#719 - 2015-04-08 16:33:02 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Velarra wrote:
More serious question...what happened to the Ambulation project Torfie was promoting and talking about with videos and impressive demo's a little while ago?

“A little while ago” was 7 years ago…
It was unceremoniously trashed and restarted from scratch (twice) due to massive scope creep, lack of planning, and abysmal management. Then the entire staff was laid off and the whole idea abandoned.
Good thing too! It needed more .... pssszzztttt! P

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Bill Lane
Paragon Elite
Lord of Worlds Alliance
#720 - 2015-04-08 16:47:30 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:


The idea the CCP should risk (even in a tiny way, 1 DEV working on WiS is too much) doing that again so that some RP type can drink a beer he can't taste in a bar that doesn't exist is a real BS way to think IMO.


Yes because everybody else is flying in spaceships that obviously exist... Roll

I'm not into RP but come on, Eve could use something to draw in more players and there is a large RP community out there. And not only RP folks would enjoy WiS. Time to broaden some horizons, add some truly new stuff like walking in stations, docking on a carrier or titan and being able to ride in it, etc. Add some new material never before seen in Eve. The competition has it and it looks great. Why CCP can't seem to get it right is beyond me, but the idea should not be shelved, even if it's devs working on it on their off-time for fun.

Not to mention more players means more money, CCP could probably afford to grow a bit and have more devs.