Player Features and Ideas Discussion

First, you need a deployable to do these shitposts for you.

Then, go enter a wormhole, and you will be fine.

If there was any sort of defense (standing fleets and on comms) by people living in null, AFK cloaking wouldn't be a threat, and this conversation would never have happened.

What percent of your time in game while outside of HS are you in fleet and on comms? Give me a hard number.

Okay, this would not work well with the current mechanics.

I come in with an alt in a covert ops frig. I got to a secret safe and light a covert ops cyno which you cannot see on your overview, and I jump in my main (Teckos) who is also in a cloaky ship and then goes to another secret safe cloaked up.

Now my alt boogies on out of there and unless you happened to notice my covert ops cyno you have no idea my main is in system and you see my alt leave and move on.

Now I can log off for a while. You do some desultory probing then conclude, "Okay, safe." Bring Out your bling boat. I log in and eventually get in range and kill your bling boat.

20 minutes later we get a new rage post about how OP cloaks are. Max Trixx or whichever ISD is not amused and locks your thread directing you here, and 33 minutes later we get yet another rage post.

As for your sonar pulse it has been suggested a huge number of times. Read the fecking first page please. There are a number of sheety ideas listed there and a link to my old thread that collected other sheety ideas. You have suggested nothing new that has not been suggested dozens of times in that last decade.

And your sonar pulse is a ****** idea. Why? Because it nerfs the play of people who are NOT AFK.

In short STFU and GTFO until you have an actual interesting idea.

Edit: Sonar POS module introduced 5 years ago by a complete nub of a scrub. Don't be such a nub and a scrub.

Same idea by an even worse scrub. Six years ago.

Same idea introduced by a complete Bad™ 8 fecking years ago.

And Bad™ number 3,568,145,492 suggests....a fecking POS module back in fecking 2006.

Seriously, SFTU.

Why is there a need to nerf cloaks? No one can hurt anyone or earn ISK when cloaked.

Hi, pilots.
All we know that covere ships always come suddenly. and some of them can dropped another enemyes. So what we can do?
The first thing that I could imaginate is:

All covert ships has new fuel bay for "cloaking device".

All ships, who cann't use covert cloak in fit, should gift piece of cargo bay to create fuel bay.

This give new in cloak idea - time to be hidden. And it give new needs for some of fuel (liquid/stron/other).
Cloak idea is great, but pilot, who used it, should pay for be covere.

As someone who operates in null, and is frequently camped, there's limits to the effectiveness of a standing fleet.

• Reshipping takes time, and if the victim is in a VNI he's as good as dead. Warping into the fight against a solo hunter in your own ratting ship is viable, if it's fitted properly. They seldom are. (Less isk/hr)
• You have no idea how many ships are sitting behind that cloaky camper's cyno bridge. Could be 10 blops, could be a hundred stealth bombers. Unless you operate outside of hotdrop range, you can't be sure. This is the core of the cloaky camper issue.

I don't fear hellcamps, not any more, but if you use local, intel, tank properly, comms, and are not the only one operating in system, you should be fine. If you're active tanked, carry a blue pill/exile in your cargo; and consider using a large cap battery or two(neut resistance). Announce your name and x up in fleet if you're attacked, munch on the drugs, and hang on for dear life. You're not safe in null, ever, and you shouldn't operate as if you are.

I still like some of these ideas, but I'm not quite so bothered by campers now.

As always, Eve is not fair, and Eve is a PVP game.

As was just mentioned, your ratting ship may get blapped. Especially if it's a 100mn VNI with virtually zero tank. Go ahead and ask the armor tanked Nyx that had 6 DDAs and a DCU how well not fitting tank works for PVP.

If you focus on max ticks, that is a strategic choice you have made.

Throw some tank on your ship. X up in fleet. Heck, bring a cyno if you're gonna lose your ship anyways.

Just remember. They will generally always tackle you within web range, or scram range, or both. The last thing they want is to jump in and lose their kill.

If you counter-drop, those deliciously soft bombers will be right on top of your counter-drop... which is very bad for them.

If they bring BBs, even better. Those deliciously soft and rediculously expensive Black Ops Battleships will have to spend the next X number of seconds spooling their MJD with a massive sig bloom. You can scram that in probably less than a second.

Now you just traded a 100m isk VNI for at least one 2b isk BB.

All cloaking modules to have a new cap drain amount attribute, once cloak is activated, cap depletes and eventually runs out and decloaks? any cap regen/ bonus mods are negated whilst cloaked, so that people cant just fill up on cap regen mods to overcome this.

wouldn't this just be an easy, simple fix?

Why should an active cloaker have his ship nerfed? Why do you deserve enhanced safety while ratting?

Yes, it is easy to implement, but like most people who think things in life are simple it is unlikely to have additional effects you clearly have not thought about.

I would imagine logging out and back in would work too. I like it for the humor value if nothing else, though I'm sure the usual folks will be along to point out how it completely ruins the game, somehow.