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Vorran
Doomheim
#61 - 2015-01-03 12:25:51 UTC
Johnson Stroker wrote:
Honor is a dying thing in both real life and the virtual world.



Yep it is, it a very hard thing to watch as I get older
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#62 - 2015-01-03 12:42:10 UTC
Xerxes Fehrnah wrote:
My question for you is what code of conduct or rules do you obey in-game that are not required by the game mechanics? When I started Eve, I tried to be nice to people the way I am in real life... helping people... basically a big boy scout. These days... I will still help a newbie, but I find myself losing concern for my public image as a good guy.

That completely depends on the character I play at a given moment.

Remove standings and insurance.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#63 - 2015-01-03 12:45:53 UTC
Johnson Stroker wrote:
Honor is a dying thing in both real life and the virtual world.

Few things are less subjective than honor.

Remove standings and insurance.
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#64 - 2015-01-03 14:17:50 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Johan Civire wrote:
Because working my ass of to get that sp points what i have now.


How much work is it to gain SP? I don't know what kind of job you have but my job is a lot harder than getting SP in EvE.


To gain sp is hard yes its hard. You know paying the bills every month is hard in my country perhaps in your country is better! So gaining sp points in my world is hard. But i guess you people think everyone is rich right? Or can easy pay there bills.

I guess you like troll other people to in real life because you`re thinking that the world is only US only? right?


Dude, I am from The Netherlands.

PS: perhaps you should rethink your priorities. If you have problems paying your bills, you shouldn't spend money one a monthly subscription like EvE online.
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#65 - 2015-01-03 14:36:01 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
Sol Project wrote:
Or, maybe, you shouldn't be playing at work.
Then you would most likely do a better job, too.

Or, in case this all is true ...
... and fifteen bucks to pay for a month really are too much ...
... then you shouldn't be playing at all, because you have bigger problems.


This smells too much like troll.


For you 15 bucks is nothing for me is everything.

I guess you like to personnel attack me. You`re thinking playing eve at work is the same as home? I guess your brain can not handle the different culture in this world!

You people think that money is every where in the world? i guess i stop posting here and draw the line here before its getting outside control.


You really shouldn't play Eve.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#66 - 2015-01-03 15:17:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
As you may have guessed I and many other Agents of the New Order and law abiding citizens in New Order territory (formerly known as Highsec) .


I laughed and then I read your signature, "CODE. always wins," and nearly fell out of my chair. In this example the Proc was caught on an invisble part of an asteroid. Lol

Edit: Removed kill mail, forgot CCP protects the emotionally disabled "players".

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#67 - 2015-01-03 15:30:12 UTC
Posting With Alt wrote:
I am immortal. I am a capsuleer.

What need have I for morality?


Famous Jovian last words...

Fornicate The Constabulary !
Jurico Elemenohpe
Flipsid3 Tactics
#68 - 2015-01-03 15:30:44 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
As you may have guessed I and many other Agents of the New Order and law abiding citizens in New Order territory (formerly known as Highsec) .


I laughed and then I read your signature, "CODE. always wins," and nearly fell out of my chair. In this example the Proc was caught on an invisble part of an asteroid. Lol

But I think they can always just say that they're not the code, just agents of it, so their losses don't count. Or something like that.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#69 - 2015-01-03 15:37:52 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Depends upon what I'm doing in game. As a pirate, I always honoured ransoms as did the corp.


Pretty much this. If and I mean IF I offer a ransom I honor it. I actually do offer them on occasion, especially when dealing with newer players. I do NOT betray a trust I've cultivated. I will not **** over those who I consider comrades. Anyone else is pretty much fair game. What limits this is my own motivation to be honest. I'm just way too lazy to get into scamming or safaris or awoxing. Taking from some nitwit in space who doesn't bother to properly protect their assets is a whole different matter tho. If I don't know you from Adam, your name is Mark to me. This is just where I stand personally. I also belong to a merc alliance, so if they say to crush/kill/destroy well, that's business. Crush/kill/destroy it is.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#70 - 2015-01-03 15:40:53 UTC
Jurico Elemenohpe wrote:
But I think they can always just say that they're not the code, just agents of it, so their losses don't count. Or something like that.
Sounds like they are kissing each other to remove the boo-boo. Blink

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Equinnox Dethahal
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2015-01-03 15:47:10 UTC
Its a sandbox so if you want some special community bent on good, start one up, get the ball rolling on it, if it provides gameplay that people love it will spread.

Im not sure what it is you dislike though, is it ganking noobs in high sec? the super obvious scammers in local? The pvpers in general?

Mind you the bad people do provide content for a lot of players, don't have to be a scumbag to reap entertainment from those who are.
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2015-01-03 15:54:07 UTC
Xerxes Fehrnah wrote:
My question for you is what code of conduct or rules do you obey in-game that are not required by the game mechanics? When I started Eve, I tried to be nice to people the way I am in real life... helping people... basically a big boy scout. These days... I will still help a newbie, but I find myself losing concern for my public image as a good guy.

Depends on my mood and the person in question if I will help someone.

Other than that, I keep my word and I don't lie more than is necessary for my gameplay (it's rarely necessary in my line of work which is ganking and trading mostly).
Lexi Starshine
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#73 - 2015-01-03 16:22:14 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
Or, maybe, you shouldn't be playing at work.
Then you would most likely do a better job, too.

Or, in case this all is true ...
... and fifteen bucks to pay for a month really are too much ...
... then you shouldn't be playing at all, because you have bigger problems.


This smells too much like troll.


People in EU pay double that. Tons of developing nations in Eastern Europe. $30 is a lot of money to them.
Creiter
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2015-01-03 16:24:56 UTC
Stopped reading after page 2, some pointless debate about cost of game, work required, when the OP seemed to be asking about your ethics and morality.

Personally, stopped caring about anybody. Will give some advice out, sometimes a few million isk....rest of the time its your own damn problem, you have to learn, good luck, and fck off I don' t really care about you type attitude I have adopted even in real life (thanks to EVE, won't donate to most charities cause I see human nature at its basic core, forget EULA/Sandbox and "its just a game" as I just don't care about other people anymore who are not family or close friends...humans do what they do, I won't contribute nor help much to make it better or worse).
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#75 - 2015-01-03 16:44:53 UTC
Lexi Starshine wrote:
Sol Project wrote:
Or, maybe, you shouldn't be playing at work.
Then you would most likely do a better job, too.

Or, in case this all is true ...
... and fifteen bucks to pay for a month really are too much ...
... then you shouldn't be playing at all, because you have bigger problems.


This smells too much like troll.


People in EU pay double that. Tons of developing nations in Eastern Europe. $30 is a lot of money to them.

Whether it's 15 bucks or 30 bucks is irrelevant. If you have difficulty paying for EVE you should be paying for bread instead.
Serene Repose
#76 - 2015-01-03 17:15:12 UTC
I don't do anything in the game I wouldn't do out of the game. Except:

own a spaceship, dock said spaceship, hyperwarp in said spaceship, put lasers and rayguns on a spaceship, buy spaceship accoutrements, talk to people who fly spaceships...other than that....

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#77 - 2015-01-03 18:25:59 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:
Johan Civire wrote:
When the make it Free to play game. I will quit eve. Or if the remove sp or reskill your sp points. If this happens i`m gone and ask for refund. Because working my ass of to get that sp points what i have now. Don`t want to talk how many real money i spend in this ridicules game. Let alone the real time i spend on this game.

Even my wife will kick me in the butt if i leave eve for lesser things.

They don't need to make it a Free-to-Play game. Whyever would they do that?
They're not going to betray their customers.

"Refund"
"working my ass off to get sp points"


This guy is either trolling or really needs to get a life. ^_^


Do you have more of these butterflys ???

Exactly. NO ONE works to get Skill Points. You add a skill to a queue and wait for time to pass...
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2015-01-03 18:39:53 UTC
It's a game. You don't apologize when you take your enemy's pawn. I don't tend to scam or steal since EVE is a community game and that doesn't help me in that regard, but scammers aren't breaking some moral code - they're just playing the game.

Just treat people with respect.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#79 - 2015-01-03 18:43:14 UTC
I try not to be an ass hat but there are times when someone does something so asinine that making them suffer for it (in game of course) seems like the only just and logical course of action.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#80 - 2015-01-03 20:37:26 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
This has the same title as my petition.


Funny.



Was this from your break down in local or what happened? ;)