EVE General Discussion

He would say though, wouldn't he?

What I'm saying is, going by his word is not all that persuasive. In game theory terms it's called cheap talk.

And again, we don't have much information to go on at this stage. We don't know about how the algorithm works. Does the probability of a false positive go down with the number of suspect accounts a player is using? If that is the case...well 20 accounts...not good.

Not wishing to inflame an old wound but the issue of Utilities like ISBOXER just seems to hang around, But the question no one really has asked regarding this is why is it so important to players to the point that they are prepared to trash accounts rather than try and keep them running.

CCP do need to revisit this urgently, maybe by the inclusion of a similar utility inside EVE rather than as third party purchase, This could be coded as an 'add on' were players wishing to use it could be charged a yearly subscription, say the cost of an additional subscription per year for the right to use this utility for one year allowing you to multi-box however many accounts there set up could manage.

Doing it this way CCP would be in full control of how the interface worked, what ships could be controlled by it and how.

One the basic reasons people have chosen to ghost there accounts is not because they feel they cannot do multi-boxing in EVE, it is because they are having the play style they want to use in the game inhibited to the point that it becomes impossible to pursue, The results have been far reaching, Further than most maybe comprehend.

There will be those that say that in some way players using such a utility are gaining an unfair advantage, but is this really the case, They are being faced with the same risks we all are when in space, but multiplied, There ISK risk is indeed greatly multiplied, alongside this they are paying for the accounts either in cash or with PLEX, it does cost them to play in this manner, Divided across the accounts they once ran it was the same as a player with just one account. And CCP gained considerable dollar value from there activities as a result, Mostly now lost to them.

Not really a good idea for a company which is currently grossing around 10 million a year out of EVE in my view to introduce a change in a product that incurs a severe real money penalty to itself, quite certain accounts had a few choice words to say about that aspect.

There are a lot of things wrong with EVE however inhibiting personal content generation in this manner is one that should never have been introduced, it should have been nurtured and marketed so that CCP gained from it financially, simply to ban it is 2d thinking of the worst kind.

I saw it and ignored it tbh. Only know 3 people ingame with one character and they either struggle with it, sell plex or have alternate games to play. All of which might be preferable to maintaining an alt army. Most people I've encountered have 2+ and the really commited have 4+.

The people are still here though, which is good.

We're all just riding out the storm btw, it's not just the guys in here. There's a deeper issue with the sub model (which we unfortunately halted with summer of rage), skillpoints, implants. Get out of this thread and start yacking in other topics. There is a major change being implemented and I really don't think it's being done to exclude specific types of players or playstyle(s). It's a systematic rebuild of the core game. If you spend too long whinging about your preferred playstyle, you'll miss participating in redesigning a game-wide shift.

If you want to run lots of ships all doing the same things at the same time with broadcasting ie in incursions, pvp, trading what ever then why play an MMO? buy a single player game if you do not with to communicate with others.
IS boxer is like a car. A very very useful tool but can be a dangerous weapon if the wrong person gets hold of it. The screen controls and positions isboxer offer are amazing, The broadcasting part is bull and should be banned. in pvp not all 10 pilots till lock and fire at the same time, with IS boxer you will alpha people not giving the reps a chance to land, which effects the game.

end of the days, its an MMO play together, with each other and enjoy

So I've had an Eve account for 5 years now. Been playing it on and off.
I have read the first page and a couple other random ones and I don't feel like reading 200+ pages.

So can anyone answer this for me.

I would like a have another character to run transport for me / production stuff.

I would like to have two separate accounts that I can play on, switching between the two. No macros or automation. Just playing the game like if I had one account, but switching between the windows on my PC.

Would this be game breaking or get me banned?

Thanks!

Edit: Did some more searching and found this: http://www.dual-boxing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1382&d=1417019737
I would assume this still applies?

Thanks! 5 sounds crazy! I will stick with two for now.

Hello,

I have a bunch of MIDI control surfaces lying around (Launchpad, APC40, etc).

Basically, these are flat control surfaces with lots of buttons and knobs, sending out MIDI signal to my computer (looks like this:
http://www.akaipro.com/product/apc40)

If I convert MIDI signals to keystroke signals and play the game in such a setup, will it be considered as broadcasting / automation?

i would have said its fine, its a controller any one of us can buy and use, its simple to convert the keystrokes to keyboard strokes.

but id submit a ticket and ask just in case.

let us know though i have a MIDI around here i can put to use

They will not respond to a question like this from a forum post
They will take a while to reply to the petition you should send in
You should expect the answer to be something along the lines of "If you aren't sure, don't do it'
You will be frustrated
There is nothing you can do
/ballad

E: Sorry i wasnt entirely sure what you were referring to till i clicked the link
AS I UNDERSTAND IT: If you have button 1, to send undock to client 1, and button 2 to send undock to client 2, that is broadcasting (in their definition of the words)

If you set it up so that Button 1, sends undock to whatever client is open and focused on, that is keybinding
Putting this into the context of F1, if i bind button 1 to F1, that is simply keybinding.
If however button 1 SENDS F1 to client 1, that is illegal (theres a slight difference its just difficult to explain)

I think what you're trying to do is setup that tablet so that you can play off of it instead of a central key/mouse combo.
Such a setup would let you "bind" buttons to send specific acts to specific clients which is probably more efficient than playing the regular way.
If you think you can get around the broadcast issue by binding a row of buttons to X number of clients, to say, make them all undock, autopilot, etc, it would allow you to press the row of buttons without having to swap between clients to do the same action.

Sorry for terrible text, i can elaborate on a specific section further if needed