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So you prefer super old textures and a blockship with no moving parts.

What reasons support the old one over this new one? All I've heard is complaints about the new one, but nothing about what was good about the old one.

All I can say is that I find the old one just about the ugliest ship in the game right now. I know that ships don't have to look beautiful, but even the most practical devices engineers want to make look reasonably nice.

Actually the osprey is uglier. It is sort of a dramatic redesign, but I like it in the end. There's nothing particularly iconic that I am a fan of with the original blackbird.

I know plenty of new players would avoid most of the old caldari cruisers just cause of how ugly they were. (Moa especially, but moa/osprey/blackbird were the main suspects, caracal also looks a bit odd but people tend to be more friendly towards it)

Dirt on ships should be restricted to ships that warrant it, like older minmatar ships and mining barges, but not modern ships or T2 ones.
For example, the vargur, a modern tech 2 ship, but it still has dirt on it.

Guristas ships should remain closer to how they are on TQ atm, and serpentis could use more ominous black.

Caracal, Caracal Navy Issue, and the two special editions all have a big white dot on their arms with 100% luminosity. Looks like a bug. The Cerberus seems to have escaped this affliction.

People use the echelon?.?.

the enyo and ishkur are a little too shiny, but otherwise good. The engine looks fantastic.

agreed, the widow is indeed a better example. it currently looks like it had spend a good while in a pool of mud.

M O R D U … (subtle hint) The few Minmatar ships I saw had less rust and weathering than the Caldari ones. I was hoping for a shiny patchwork of duct tape across most of the Minmatar hulls, but to no avail...

I've started a Thread that has GIF animations comparing the current rendering system and the one to come in Rhea.

Personally, I find the new rendering system to be an improvement in lighting, however, many "Mattes" are now too Matte and even plastic looking, also, deep saturated colours have become pastel-like and much brighter then before.



Overall, I am enjoying the majority of the Amarr ships, although a little too bright/white on the face receiving light.

The Caldari ships have become plastic, Dull, brighter and very un-metallic, the best example is the Rohk special editions.

The Gallente ships have a very chrome feel to them, where before they had a shiny plastic feel. This change is most welcome, however, some ships are just too shiny!

From what i've seen so far of the Minmitar ships, the new rendering has had very little effect on them.

Oh hey, some Minmatar things!

Amazing:

- Scimitar (wonderful weathering, looks really detailed!)
- Sabre (same as above)
- Stiletto (oh my god, the weathering looks incredible)
- Hyena


Looks good:

- Panther (dope weathering, although the dark bits could be a little darker for some more contrast)
- Rupture
- Muninn (the weathering is well placed, but appears too bright)
- Broadsword
- Vaga (nice rustiness, but bare metal bits around the engines could use... something, and some dirty patches on those solar panels woudn't go amiss-- the rest of the ship looks worn but those panels look like they've never left a clean room :D)
- Claw
- Cheetah (could use more contrast-- overall the color palette is a little uniformly-bright)
- Hound (again with the dust looking a little white / too bright)
- Jag / Wolf


Bland / Too Sterile:

- Scythe
- Bellicose
- Stabber

Again, bit of a variance here. In general the Core Complexion ships look utterly fantastic, the Thukker ships look solid, the Boundless Creation ships look pretty good but a number of them have dust on them that looks unnaturally bright. The T1 ships seem to show the most variety, with some looking really sterile while others look nice and weathered. I think in general you should weather them a little more.

The ships look their best when you guys play with the specularity a lot (I think that's the right term) across the surfaces. It's great when there are spots where paint is scuffed down to bare metal and the bare spots are nice and reflective, while the paint looks dull and matte. That kind of detail where there's not a ton of contrast until the ship catches a specular highlight are great for immersion factor. Bits of ship that have totally uniform surfacing and specularity look boring.

Keep up the great work and keep piling on the grittiness :D

Are station interiors going to get the PBR?

They are. He meant the Pilgrim and Crusader, respectively.