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Nemah Xadi
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#281 - 2015-01-07 03:35:46 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Nemah Xadi wrote:
Thank you, I know very well where the door is. And I still have 2 weeks left and more complaining to do.

I hope that doesn't bother you.


not at all, please continue to sperg butthurt in forums.


You're completely sure about that, not even a little tiny bit?

The fact you refer to it as "sperg butthurt", and that you felt the need to post that, says otherwise, I would think...

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Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#282 - 2015-01-16 13:01:47 UTC
*yawn*

Price seems to have stabilizied at summer peak prices. ATM, a price drop to 700 or even 750 seems completely unrealistic to me, let alone a price crash to 'dirt cheap PLEX' so many ppl were hoping for (and some even predicting it).

Even with the fall price spike and the major correction afterwards (most likely driven mostly by panic selling due to multibox-policy changes) it seems we are back at where we have always been with PLEX-price trend: an overall upward trend.
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#283 - 2015-01-16 13:17:57 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Because PLEX are massively underpriced.
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#284 - 2015-01-16 20:40:59 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Because PLEX are massively underpriced.




No I can assure you it isn't. In fact I would be very careful in this market as the average trade volumes are far far below the average for its price. We are seeing Jita volumes around 2400 units when they should be 3000. So either supply fell perfectly with the drop in demand or something is about to happen to the market.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#285 - 2015-01-16 20:44:40 UTC
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Because PLEX are massively underpriced.




No I can assure you it isn't. In fact I would be very careful in this market as the average trade volumes are far far below the average for its price. We are seeing Jita volumes around 2400 units when they should be 3000. So either supply fell perfectly with the drop in demand or something is about to happen to the market.



I'm hoping your second possibility is what occurs. Should be fun to watch
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#286 - 2015-01-25 13:22:41 UTC
OMG That stupid Toady guy was right!

Quote:
The team is looking into removing buying PLEX directly and replacing it with buying AUR which can then be redeemed for a PLEX from the New Eden Store, reducing the current ISK/PLEX/AUR to simply ISK/AUR


From Day One of the CSM... no more buying Plex on the market, they want us to use AUR instead.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#287 - 2015-02-02 19:40:57 UTC
I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period. You turn in AUR, you get game time. Also, allow players to trade AUR for ISK with each other. Then, instead of having PLEX price threads, we will have AUR price threads.

Other changes CCP would have to make for this to work:

AUR would have to go back to being a per pilot thing, not a per account thing. It would become another number in your wallet.

The market for exchanging ISK and AUR would have to be a special Eve wide market, not one limited to what station you are in. After all AUR is a number in your wallet, not an item. Such an eve wide market would be useful for other things, like a stock market (After all, stock is just a number in your wallet too.)

The disadvantage is: No more kills of frigates carrying 80 PLEX.

Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era? Maybe the multi-cast ban rules are beginning to really bite? Or is it just a little glitch in the ever upward market?

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Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#288 - 2015-02-02 19:57:33 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period. You turn in AUR, you get game time. Also, allow players to trade AUR for ISK with each other. Then, instead of having PLEX price threads, we will have AUR price threads.

Other changes CCP would have to make for this to work:

AUR would have to go back to being a per pilot thing, not a per account thing. It would become another number in your wallet.

The market for exchanging ISK and AUR would have to be a special Eve wide market, not one limited to what station you are in. After all AUR is a number in your wallet, not an item. Such an eve wide market would be useful for other things, like a stock market (After all, stock is just a number in your wallet too.)

The disadvantage is: No more kills of frigates carrying 80 PLEX.

Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era? Maybe the multi-cast ban rules are beginning to really bite? Or is it just a little glitch in the ever upward market?


I saw a 10% off PLEX packs on the log in screen
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#289 - 2015-02-02 22:26:12 UTC
Alexi Stokov wrote:

I saw a 10% off PLEX packs on the log in screen

I bypass the launcher, so sometimes I miss these. When did it start?

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Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#290 - 2015-02-02 23:38:33 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Alexi Stokov wrote:

I saw a 10% off PLEX packs on the log in screen

I bypass the launcher, so sometimes I miss these. When did it start?



Not sure. 1st noticed a couple days ago by accident.
Koniforous
Tauren Transit
#291 - 2015-02-02 23:54:07 UTC
Alexi Stokov wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
Alexi Stokov wrote:

I saw a 10% off PLEX packs on the log in screen

I bypass the launcher, so sometimes I miss these. When did it start?



Not sure. 1st noticed a couple days ago by accident.

Just a few days, my guess on its date was a week or so early :(

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erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#292 - 2015-02-03 12:08:58 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period.

....

Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era?


Smart traders sell PLEX before they become useless pixel item, due to AUR changes you mentioned.

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Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#293 - 2015-02-03 15:07:44 UTC
erg cz wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period.

....

Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era?


Smart traders sell PLEX before they become useless pixel item, due to AUR changes you mentioned.



How would they become useless? Even if they do the change to AUR, I do not see how PLEX will suddenly be unusable. Whatever is on the market will be burned off or they would have to convert PLEX to AUR. If they simple had PLEX go worthless, how many pissed of people would there be? Not to mention the currently ongoing PLEX sale....
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#294 - 2015-02-03 16:47:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Market McSelling Alt
Alexi Stokov wrote:
erg cz wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period.

....

Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era?


Smart traders sell PLEX before they become useless pixel item, due to AUR changes you mentioned.



How would they become useless? Even if they do the change to AUR, I do not see how PLEX will suddenly be unusable. Whatever is on the market will be burned off or they would have to convert PLEX to AUR. If they simple had PLEX go worthless, how many pissed of people would there be? Not to mention the currently ongoing PLEX sale....



CCP is pushing to remove them from inside the game all together and have them on the NES only. They wouldn't be "worthless" just non-transferable through in game means. Instead you would use isk to buy AUR and AUR to buy Plex.

My take is they realize the massive stockpiling and market manipulation actually fosters a bot and rmt environment and want more direct control of plex time.

Edit: Going back and reading some of the posts of that nut job Toad... he seems a bit prophetic and kinda called this a long time ago. Probably lucky, but hats off to him.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#295 - 2015-02-03 17:57:41 UTC
I just don't see what going to AUR to get PLEX is really going to change other than pushing a currency no one cares about.
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#296 - 2015-02-03 18:07:48 UTC
Alexi Stokov wrote:
I just don't see what going to AUR to get PLEX is really going to change other than pushing a currency no one cares about.



Stop the stockpile and manipulation... allow for dynamic pricing controlled by CCP

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#297 - 2015-02-03 18:36:06 UTC
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
Alexi Stokov wrote:
I just don't see what going to AUR to get PLEX is really going to change other than pushing a currency no one cares about.



Stop the stockpile and manipulation... allow for dynamic pricing controlled by CCP


Couldn't you just stock pile AUR instead? Now that I think about it... Don't you currently get AUR by converting PLEX?
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#298 - 2015-02-03 18:54:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Market McSelling Alt
Alexi Stokov wrote:
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
Alexi Stokov wrote:
I just don't see what going to AUR to get PLEX is really going to change other than pushing a currency no one cares about.



Stop the stockpile and manipulation... allow for dynamic pricing controlled by CCP


Couldn't you just stock pile AUR instead? Now that I think about it... Don't you currently get AUR by converting PLEX?



But if Plex = same amount of AUR, and AUR = same amount of RL $, then there can be no manipulation. Only between isk and AUR, but that would be pointless because you aren't buying Plex from players anymore.

Edit: really it depends on what CCP implements, but fact remains we will likely see big changes that will negatively effect the Isk per Plex amount.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#299 - 2015-02-04 22:38:41 UTC
Alexi Stokov wrote:
erg cz wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period.

....

Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era?


Smart traders sell PLEX before they become useless pixel item, due to AUR changes you mentioned.



How would they become useless? Even if they do the change to AUR, I do not see how PLEX will suddenly be unusable. Whatever is on the market will be burned off or they would have to convert PLEX to AUR. If they simple had PLEX go worthless, how many pissed of people would there be? Not to mention the currently ongoing PLEX sale....

If they did my idea (no PLEX, buy game time with AUR directly for the NEX store) then one thing they would do is convert every existing PLEX to 3500 AUR. AUR would then become the thing people buy as a hedge against inflation, and all the PLEX price threads would be replaced with AUR price threads.

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Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#300 - 2015-02-04 23:40:11 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Alexi Stokov wrote:
erg cz wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period.

....

Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era?


Smart traders sell PLEX before they become useless pixel item, due to AUR changes you mentioned.



How would they become useless? Even if they do the change to AUR, I do not see how PLEX will suddenly be unusable. Whatever is on the market will be burned off or they would have to convert PLEX to AUR. If they simple had PLEX go worthless, how many pissed of people would there be? Not to mention the currently ongoing PLEX sale....

If they did my idea (no PLEX, buy game time with AUR directly for the NEX store) then one thing they would do is convert every existing PLEX to 3500 AUR. AUR would then become the thing people buy as a hedge against inflation, and all the PLEX price threads would be replaced with AUR price threads.



Not really, because to most people AUR is worthless, it would only become worth something if it were tied to game time.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.