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I disagree, there are still battle reports coming out, still violence being done. It does put up a barrier against a specific TYPE of PvP, the hotdrop of redonculous proportions where Bored Super Pilots hit a miner with Dreadnaughts. But a barrier making Null peace and sunshine and lollipop wielding carebears?

nuh uh

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Perhaps this is more about how many blues you have chosen to surround yourself with?

ITT: massive amounts of not getting the point.

The point: slowing down any entities ability to move large masses of forces over long distances in a timeframe that directly inhibits the aggressing parties ability to cause reasonable damage before defenders arrive.

The reason: because leaving space assets undefended or under-defended should have penalties. The previous mode of gameplay allowed a given capital to travel from one side of the EVE cluster to the other in 12 minutes. Regional defence as a concept was a total joke because any act of aggression would be met with almost immediate retaliation.

The solution and why it works: the solution we received was to slow down how defending forces respond to an attack. If a given front was under-staffed by defence forces then flanking actions could be utilised to *divide* the enemy and *conquer* them as smaller partitions of their larger force. The game under the new model changed from being a super-hotdrop disco to requiring a much more indepth degree of strategy and tactics. This is why major null groups withdrew from their greater borders so quickly. Because they knew that strategically the amount of space they controlled was undefendable and that tactically they would need to station their forces more locally to their income generating sources in order to defend them properly.

I can't believe this basic idea still needs to be spelt out for people. If you've failed to grasp this idea and make it work then it shows that your institution suffers from very weak planning. You clearly are living in an environment that is more complex than the organisms within it (i.e. you).

Did not read all... but..

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Back in my day, we had to go 15KM to the gate before we could jump... both ways... in the midst of gate camps...

And we never heard of this thing called a JB. You kids have it easy.

REMOVE JB.

HTFU

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in part i do not have a problem with the Jump Fatigue, on the other hand with it and the nerfing the carrier jump range it takes an entire day to move 30 jumps. honestly i have a carrier that i cant use anymore i trained up for it so i was usefull but now im not by haveing both it just seems over kill.

That was exactly the whole point of the change: To make being 30 jumps away from somewhere actually mean something.

Your carrier is still extremely useful; It's just not usable to help dunk on someone 3 regions away and get you home for tea with no consequences any more.

Since you're in TEST, fights are coming to you pretty much daily in any case.



EDIT: Incidentally, you can use gates now; it should take you no more than a couple of hours to go 30 jumps in a carrier - if you want to trade jump fatigue for risk.

The whole purpose for this FAILED jump fatigue system (as stated at time of presentation of concept) was to limit any group from crossing the entire map in minutes, thus bringing everything and everyone from anywhere to anywhere.

I would think that KISS applies here -- Keep It Simple Stupid !

So if we MUST be limited in this fashion a much more simple system can be used as follows:

1) Simply allow for any number of jumps within Max Jump Range of starting point for those of us who just want to travel within a set Region.

2) For those of us who trained on Black Ops, covert jump drives should not be limited. If only because of the requirement to invest months in training for this.

3) Go ahead and limit the jumping of others via my covert jump portal generator with your fatigue system that has been set up to have variants for certain ships with 90% this and 80% that, but….

I AGREE WITH U GUYS when you say -- LEAVE JUMP BRIDGES ALONE
But -- we all know that this is much like trying to skip rocks across the lake - no matter how many times we try -- no matter how hard we try -- the likelihood of getting game decision makers to agree with us….

Hi, I live in nullsec. PL are two cynos over, and BL a few cynos in the other direction. Without fatigue, we would be unable to operate with capitals.



Then you done goofed son. Watch your fatigue next time.

For the sake of argument I won't argue this but I will say that there are much better ways of limiting capital mobility than fatigue. It's really nothing more than an enormous pain in the ass in every possible way and has severely hampered some other times of game play like Blopsing which is not longer attractive as it accumulates fatigue.