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One thing that causes me to doubt if most people even read the dev blog is the constant complaint that
they will get xxx hours of cooldown by default.

As it stands now you start with 0 fatigue and get 1+distance(max 5) so max 6 minute fatigue on first jump
for a JF this is 1+ 0.1*distance so max at 1.5.

Now fatigue is decaying at 0.1/minute so it will take 15 minutes for a JF/rorqual pilot to nullify his/her fatigue
for other types of ships a full hour

So you can wait 1.5 minutes and jump building up fatigue exponentially or you wait 15 minutes and jump
once it reaches 0, if you are doing long jump chains it will quickly be more efficient to wait the 15 minutes
rather than build up as have been stated hours worth of fatigue.

Now 15 minutes is of course a lot more than today coupled with the 5LY jumps causing you to jump that many
more times but it is possible to avoid the fatigue building up to unsustainable levels.

Now whether it is feasible to stop for 15 minutes in the systems you go through is a completely different story
and thats probably more of an issue to most people who say they run small logistic chains

How people will adapt ?, as usual it is most likely the large blocks that will adapt the fastest and find the
workarounds first, as with most other changes they have the manpower to come up with ideas and the
resources to test those ideas. But wihen dropping a spanner as large as this in the works you can't really
predict to much only that it will cause quite a splash.

Oh boy that sounds fun. Every quarter hour you get to do something for about 30 seconds. That translates to 2 minutes of game time for JF pilots per hour. In this scenario of a 4 jump route you can do the round trip in 2 hours if you cool down at every single jump.

This 4 jump route before probably had a courier premium of 30-40M before and it takes about 20 minutes to run end to end (logging in characters, filling LO and positioning cynos, undocking / docking / jump times/ etc). That means 90-120M isk/hour - not a terrible profession for players with enough isk and SP to afford a JF plus collat. Equivalent to missioning or ratting.

Well, if courier contracts don't change their premiums, we've just nerfed the profession to less than mining veldspar in highsec in a venture.

But of course people still need to move their stuff so contracts will just have to include a 4-5x increase on premium for the moving of materials in and out of your region.

This will have a dramatically chilling impact on any null space not proximate to a low sec/high sec system.

Oh you say why don't people just build in those places and null bears will spread like wildfire and production in null will be meaningful?

BS because the risks of nullbearing still exist in exactly the same form as before (null bears weren't scared of supers FWIW, it was sov grinders). And it'll *still* be less time intensive and risky to haul your crap to/from an efficient highsec market.

It'll just cause dramatic inflation and scarcity and the space poor will be space poorer and the space rich will be space richer.

Implementation of this would be not good for CCP revenue.

I didn't even read your post i was laughing so hard at that word.

Screw it, have a like anyways.

RIP

WTB Triage Carrier's!!!

This change will force big alliances with sov to think twice before hot dropping 20 caps for a hurricane kill, or titan bridging 100 people on the the little cute merlin.

Think what this will do for the games economy... People will want more caps then they all ready have, the little guys (stop looking at me) can assist their 15 man BS Fleet with a triage knowing that any significant threat will be within 5 LY

Rooks and Kings can make more video's!!!! Though I did like the pipe-bomb, i liked your triage video more.

This will also force pilots and fleets that want to get to a destination consider using BS fleets again.

More caps will be wanted = economy boost
More pilots wanting caps due to safer conditions (ME!!!) = economy boost
More subcap fleets = economy boost

not to mention all the small alliances that want their own space

Now I read a lot of the tears so far. So u want to rat in Nyx's, and U want this and u want that. We all see how dead 0.0 is getting. People are just sitting in belts and grinding that isk. While good for your wallet, not good for economy.

Sounds like you can still do it but remember the days when subcaps meant "OH CRAP THESE GUYS MEAN SERIOUZ BISNEZ"

Means you will have to plan carefully and and use your past exp to keep your elite status of capital warfare, if you don't or fail to live up to your reputation then you are only proving that you abused something in the game that became easy.

Look at eve, everything about it is supposed to be hard, the learning curve is only for the brave of us to stick with it. If you have all ready invested this much time in the game, you will find new ways to dominate in your sov wars. I'm confident in that.

thx for reading my crap, sorry for the horrible grammar,
and I was serious, I really want to buy some triage carriers cuz of this now.

So here's something I think nobody has talked about yet. It's not huge, but it's an interesting consequence of the math they are using for this. If a pilot lets their fatigue value drop to 1 (not zero) it will no longer have an effect on their new fatigue value. Further, if it is less than 1 but over zero, it will actually make the new timer shorter than it would otherwise be. I'm assuming CCP has thought of this already and made it not happen, but I haven't found anything in writing about it.

An example:

Varos Kang jumps his non-existent carrier and accrues some fatigue. Nobody cares how much because that's not the purpose of the example. He waits until it is sitting at 0.2. He then makes another 5LY jump, bringing his new fatigue value to

0.2(1+5) = 1.2

Varos is very happy, because this is much less than the minimum he would have gotten if his fatigue was decayed to zero. He is also very happy because he somehow made a jump to another system without being able to use any jump-capable ship. :)

Seriously though, if this loophole in the math isn't already fixed, it needs to be. If I'm somehow missing something here, sorry to have wasted your time. Carry on as if you were normal.

Naturally cap the jump fatigue by way of a Taylor series and a jump counter (n), which resets when the fatigue drops to zero.

Greyscale I'll give you a cookie if you can give me the max possible fatigue (approx.) that can be acquired, in one line.

I did just buy up a whole bunch of Capital Polycarbs and Capital low Friction nozzle joints for dirt cheap. Gonna be RICH as a mofo!

Good changes, though I'd buff JFs a bit range wise compared to your proposal.

Also, dont succumb to trolls, let the whiny wankers cry, everyone else will be happy and/or adapt, as a good EVE player should.

GJ, looking forward for more