Player Features and Ideas Discussion

"consensual pvp" has, since 2005 been CONFINED to Tournaments. The reason for that is because EVE is a non-consensual open worlds pvp game.

You cling to the AT and NEO examples because you know what you want is selfish. I can't comprehend such selfishness, I've never run to CCP and said "hey, I'm a PVE player, you guys need to make me safer so i can PVE". As an EVe players, i accept that even though i like PVE, EVEis such a game that people can disrupt my activities.

So becoming a good PVE player in EVE means knowing HOW to prevent disruption.

main point incoming:

Dojo users should have to do this as well. Their safety should only come from their efforts, not game mechanics.

Maybe CCP makes Dojo Deadspace scannable but gives the users other tools to make being scanned down unlikely (like a more expensive dojo that makes dojo ships even harder to scan down). Or maybe CCP finds a way to let dojo users TRAP people trying to scan them down.

Those things would be in keeping with the player run and "ALWAYS DANGEROUS" nature of EVE's 'flying in space' gameplay. But this thing they have now is an abomination.

Oh. I totaly missed the point where this thread becomes a this little kids game. I'm right... No you aren't... yes.. no.. yes.. no.. yes.. no... yes.. no..

The only realy FACT here is that this thread goes donwhill.

I wouldn't care about disruption, we have duels for 1v1s that can be disrupted (they had to add duels because of the crimewatch changes), we have no option to play in the same AT/NEO setup, CCP is fixing this need.

The always dangerous nature of eve come with rewards, we have no in game rewards for dojos.

Risk vs reward, no risk, no rewards just pew pew.

New since early 2007.

If the AT is to be the bench mark, then expand the AT to let folk have 'one versus one' fights during the tournament.

and that feature is not the same as the one in question, making your comparison about as relevant as my left testicle

Hold on, hold on.

There is going to be a structure in wide open space which is full of ships which are not protected by a timer of any shape or form?

If yes, then restrict them to player corps like the good CCP you are.
If no, then don't implement the thing at all.

I agree that we need a player corp restriction, it would be really stupid to be able to deploy one in a npc corp.

Unless you can shoot it and go suspect instead of having concord rek you.



Please stick to arguments and factual data.

To use a frequently posted phrase: 'Well, this escalated quickly!'

In other words, I would like to remind everybody to keep it on topic and please, above all, civil!

Haven't you learned from the other thread, Ralph?


Still reading......

No, I just showed that the "doom and gloom" comments are not to be taken seriously when CCP implement something they dislike, is it okay for people to wrongfully say "eve will die if you do something I don't like"?



Sure I also agree that this need work and testing, but a lot of people are saying "consensual pvp shouldn't be part of eve", which is not only false since it existed in eve since 2005 but also ridiculous because eve is a sandbox.

I don't think your gameplay (whatever you do) is a lesser gameplay than mine, I won't tell you to do the same thing as me and like the same stuff.