Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Firstly, to all the people writing "CCP shouldn't be wasting time on this" understand that the developers are given 20% (Or is it 10%?) of their daily time to work on their own projects. The projects have to be related to EVE and add content, but they are able to literally do whatever they want. CCP Greyscale made a bomb that instead of doing damage, created a massive collision sphere and bumbs ships inside the explosion radius. For all of the butthurt over titan pos bumping, could you just imagine the threadnaught if he released this?

For the people who basically copy paste the same argument that this is instanced gaming, where is your rage at Project Legion and Valkyrie? What about DUST? Last I checked DUST still has an effect of EVE mechanics. Please tell me how EVE has disappeared since that came about. Please tell me how you will really react if CCP manages to get Legion, Valkyrie, and EVE in the same server universe.

The one aspect that would still separate EVE dojos from the arenas of other MMOs is the fact that if you lose the fight, you lose the ship. Just like every other wreck in this game, someone, somewhere is out the ISK and has to remake the money. You die in a WoW arena? You still have all your epic loot. You bring a AT prize frigate to an e-honor duel and lost it, then it is gone. In fact, I think that MIGHT HAVE JUST HAPPENED

http://themittani.com/news/one-less-rare-ship-utu-down

As for instanced gaming, please tell me how Jabber and other similar 3rd party programs have not turned nullsec into the giant doughnut. People are looking for content so hard, that last night Pandemic Legion dropped supers on a TEST cruiser fleet. Not a t2 fleet, not a massive fleet, just a simple cruiser roam that warranted 8 super carriers to put it out.

Veritas just threw an ultimately inconsequential tool onto a test server and said "Go play with this if you want to, I made it and Im never going to see you again"

This isn't a good idea. Improve FW if you want pvp to be more easily accessible.

One of the ways a poster can know he's winning is when the counter-poster guy starts going on about "play styles" and crap lol

We are talking about a CORE ASPECT of EVE Online being mooted. Everyone who plays EVE (and actually likes what it is) should be concerned about this, even if it's 'not something that affects them personally".

In the same way as a PVE player I dislike high sec incursions (though I have partaken in those, an individual should just not be able t make that kind of isk while being protected by CONCORD), as an EVE player in general i don't want to see our game turned into some instanced BS where people are too busy doing 'fair fights' to do anything else.

If you introduce a mechanic that enforces fairness in a game that is BUILT upon the idea that fairness isn't even a thing (ie the 1st 11 years of EVE), you are killing the spirit of that game. Some of you can't see that because IMO you are short sighted. The same Shortsightedness saddled us with Dominion SOV (which man of you LOVED at 1st).

Calmer and smarter heads should prevail here. CCP should keep instancing and Arenas out of the game with the only exception being a few tournament events.

I just want to say that I have wanted a tournament bubble since the first time I saw an alliance try to run an internal tournament. The one thing I could never figure out was how to solve the boundary violation problem of "How do you get inside for the fight without getting boundary violated?"

Since we do like to spectate our arranged fights, is there a way that it can be set up so people who want to watch can watch without interfering? Like, a "here are the matches in progress; go to spectator's box" sort of thing?

look at low sec, low sec is essentially what a pvp server is on wow. an area of space where you can attack anyone on the "other team" (defined in eve as, anyone that isn't you) for no incentive.

so no, it isn't a flawed logic.

Why not? Is your F1 key broken?

We can already do this and have done for well over a decade.

Everything you said is wrong, nice damage control.

You still don't understand, you can gank people within a setup, being in a station and in dojos isn't part of the setup.

I want to trade in station all day, you want to gank me what happens? Is eve not a sandbox because you can't gank me? Nice logic.

Guild Wars 2 also never had open world PvP. Both sPvP and WvW are separate game modes that one must elect to enter into. GW2 partitions its PvP away from its PvE, exactly as this line of development in EVE will eventually lead to, and exactly as it has in other games in which it has been introduced.

I can destroy your market.

We are talking about undocked ships, blocking people from interfering in your dojo goes against everything about EVE. You should never be safe like this in space especially in PvP.