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Burner Mission Rewards are Horrible!
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Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2014-08-28 07:14:27 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
[quote=Celthric Kanerian]I like to solo my level 4 missions since I mostly play solo, but the burner mission I got where I would encounter a Sansha succubus... My dps of 200 only put a dent in his shield, my resistance of 70% EM and 65% Therm didn't do ****. I had a t2 webifier with me as well which didn't do **** since it only got a range of 10km.


Overheat

[quote]

I did overheat my guns, web and repper.

I did that to and lost a dedspace daredevil
You know what my response to this is?
Train gallente frig 5 and try again in 5 days

Somebody else has done them in a couple of different fits for amarr assault frigs, so Ill get those next
Easiest answer is going to be make a friend and one webs the other shoots, victory is had
Or maybe a booster alt, that would have likely saved the poor daredevil.
Oh well, just means i do some other l4s and buy a stratios to replace my loss.
So I only make a 100 mil profit after these losses, so sad and suffering on me.

But seriously they arent easy and while I cast greater scorn on Fozzie for not letting ewar work, I do think they will be easy once some minor events are done.


Currently training beam lasers and AF skill to 5, going to try and see if I can snipe the bastard.
Radamant Nemess
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
#42 - 2014-08-28 08:31:02 UTC
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:

3 - Burners have a chance to drop faction modules.


Lemme bold this, for this is supposed to be the most lucrative aspect of burner missions..

i can fail at any speed you like
Aria Jimbojohnson
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2014-08-28 10:41:27 UTC
Radamant Nemess wrote:
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:

3 - Burners have a chance to drop faction modules.


Lemme bold this, for this is supposed to be the most lucrative aspect of burner missions..


So CCP says. Has anyone actually gotten any faction loot offa these things yet, other than useless ammo? I did quite a few on Sisi (haven't had the motivation to grind reg level 4s for them on Tranq) as did several of my friends, and none of us have seen any faction loot. A couple corpies reported seeing faction ammo after 50+ kills, but that stuff is pretty much useless. Either the droprate is horribly low, it's borked, or we're really unlucky.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#44 - 2014-08-28 10:43:30 UTC
Aria Jimbojohnson wrote:
Radamant Nemess wrote:
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:

3 - Burners have a chance to drop faction modules.


Lemme bold this, for this is supposed to be the most lucrative aspect of burner missions..


So CCP says. Has anyone actually gotten any faction loot offa these things yet, other than useless ammo? I did quite a few on Sisi (haven't had the motivation to grind reg level 4s for them on Tranq) as did several of my friends, and none of us have seen any faction loot. A couple corpies reported seeing faction ammo after 50+ kills, but that stuff is pretty much useless. Either the droprate is horribly low, it's borked, or we're really unlucky.


They arn't going to drop like rain.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#45 - 2014-08-28 10:46:34 UTC
Aria Jimbojohnson wrote:
Radamant Nemess wrote:
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:

3 - Burners have a chance to drop faction modules.


Lemme bold this, for this is supposed to be the most lucrative aspect of burner missions..


So CCP says. Has anyone actually gotten any faction loot offa these things yet, other than useless ammo? I did quite a few on Sisi (haven't had the motivation to grind reg level 4s for them on Tranq) as did several of my friends, and none of us have seen any faction loot. A couple corpies reported seeing faction ammo after 50+ kills, but that stuff is pretty much useless. Either the droprate is horribly low, it's borked, or we're really unlucky.


Some actual evidence would be nice.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Lothras Andastar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2014-08-28 10:52:32 UTC
So don't do them.

Because the Legacy Code has too much Psssssssssssssssh, nothing will ever get fixed until CCP stop wasting money on failed sparkle MMOs and instead rewrite the entire backend of EvE from scratch.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#47 - 2014-08-28 10:55:06 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:

You should be KOS!


That's everyone in New Eden.

(especially in CVA space ... I still wonder what I did to get red from them)

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#48 - 2014-08-28 11:06:44 UTC
Bears: OMGeveisstaleanddyingunleswegetbetterpve

CCP: *gives new pve*

Bears:...to hard take it back.

CCP:*pinches nose*

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#49 - 2014-08-28 12:27:08 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Bears: OMGeveisstaleanddyingunleswegetbetterpve

CCP: *gives new pve*

Bears:...to hard take it back.

CCP:*pinches nose*

Omniwolves say, let us finish training and buying new fits, then we shall sup on your meager offerings as though they were fried green beans!
The other parts of the pack have already won and offer guidance to the rest of us.

Judge not by the care bear, for it is a placid beast, ferocious in its roar, and covered under its Concorden hide. It will not take an intrusion into its life well.
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#50 - 2014-08-28 13:07:02 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:

You should be KOS!


That's everyone in New Eden.

(especially in CVA space ... I still wonder what I did to get red from them)


Wrong corp for a single day can make it very hard to get set neut. If you have fought with any Minmatar RP corp then you are all but screwed Bear
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#51 - 2014-08-28 13:16:05 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Bears: OMGeveisstaleanddyingunleswegetbetterpve

CCP: *gives new pve*

Bears:...to hard take it back.

CCP:*pinches nose*


While you jest.....

The truth is that the 'carebear crowd' is impossible to please. A glance at the Features and Ideas section thread about the Maraduer changes (in which CCP made them into kick ass PVE 'mini-Dreadnaughts' that actually see more use in pve and even a bit better use in pvp) is all the evidence one will ever need of this.

For years they said "npcs need better AI", CCP delivers "better AI". Result, "WAHHH mah drones, I can't just launch drones and forget about them anymore, CCP PUT IT BACK LIKE IT WAS WAHHHHHHHH".

For years they said "we need something to spice up game play". CCP delivers hacking mini game. Result "WAHHH, now I have to click stuff, WAHHHHH". don't get me wrong, I don't like the hacking mini game but then I wasn't complaining about exploration in the 1st place.

For years they wanted "a way to interact with planets". CCP adds PI. Result: "Wahhh, clickfest, Wahhhhh, POCO taxes" lol.

Wasting time trying to please "carebears" with new content is about as smart as trying to get pre-teen girls to all agree on which One Direction member they want to marry.
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#52 - 2014-08-28 20:08:23 UTC
So today I was offered a burner mission paying out over 9000 LP...so...it seems things are adjusting quickly...you know...like CCP said they would. Just thought I'd mention it.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#53 - 2014-08-28 21:19:15 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Aria Jimbojohnson wrote:
Radamant Nemess wrote:
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:

3 - Burners have a chance to drop faction modules.


Lemme bold this, for this is supposed to be the most lucrative aspect of burner missions..


So CCP says. Has anyone actually gotten any faction loot offa these things yet, other than useless ammo? I did quite a few on Sisi (haven't had the motivation to grind reg level 4s for them on Tranq) as did several of my friends, and none of us have seen any faction loot. A couple corpies reported seeing faction ammo after 50+ kills, but that stuff is pretty much useless. Either the droprate is horribly low, it's borked, or we're really unlucky.


They arn't going to drop like rain.


Or they will, and he'll be back whinging about the prices falling... er... like rain.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Ken 1138
State War Academy
Caldari State
#54 - 2014-08-28 21:41:13 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Bears: OMGeveisstaleanddyingunleswegetbetterpve

CCP: *gives new pve*

Bears:...to hard take it back.

CCP:*pinches nose*


While you jest.....

The truth is that the 'carebear crowd' is impossible to please. A glance at the Features and Ideas section thread about the Maraduer changes (in which CCP made them into kick ass PVE 'mini-Dreadnaughts' that actually see more use in pve and even a bit better use in pvp) is all the evidence one will ever need of this.

For years they said "npcs need better AI", CCP delivers "better AI". Result, "WAHHH mah drones, I can't just launch drones and forget about them anymore, CCP PUT IT BACK LIKE IT WAS WAHHHHHHHH".

For years they said "we need something to spice up game play". CCP delivers hacking mini game. Result "WAHHH, now I have to click stuff, WAHHHHH". don't get me wrong, I don't like the hacking mini game but then I wasn't complaining about exploration in the 1st place.

For years they wanted "a way to interact with planets". CCP adds PI. Result: "Wahhh, clickfest, Wahhhhh, POCO taxes" lol.

Wasting time trying to please "carebears" with new content is about as smart as trying to get pre-teen girls to all agree on which One Direction member they want to marry.



So pvp stuff gets added and changed every 6 months like clockwork and you comment like that for (excluding NPC AI changes) when PVE has not been changed in over 7 years. Most if not all PVE missions predate Tier 3 battleships like the Rokh and Abaddon. These missions are an insult to the whole player base, me, you everyone.

It's a **** poor rewarding frig vs frig artificial difficulty mock pvp mission. Because if CCP wanted to they could make a faction frig like that would be a hard match for a marauder level tank.

The problem is CCP aren't happy with their changes, because they worked on this put in hours and hours of work for something that has the presentation of a completely recycled mission and elements. I've seen better new missions in X: Rebirth. The dev videos have crumbled to a halt, last one looks like it was made in 45 mins. Big changes and risk taking have almost all but vanished. Like the WH changes, pointless.

Now with AT starting, all the time and effort go into "watching" people play the game you pay to play not actually playing it...? Explain that one to me. Why would anyone want to see 10 dudes do a clusterfu--? Remember the butterfly effect trailer? That's what got me playing, where's my AT 500 vs 500 battles with capitals?
thatonepersone
Black Jack 0-1
#55 - 2014-08-28 23:00:28 UTC
Ken 1138 wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Bears: OMGeveisstaleanddyingunleswegetbetterpve

CCP: *gives new pve*

Bears:...to hard take it back.

CCP:*pinches nose*


While you jest.....

The truth is that the 'carebear crowd' is impossible to please. A glance at the Features and Ideas section thread about the Maraduer changes (in which CCP made them into kick ass PVE 'mini-Dreadnaughts' that actually see more use in pve and even a bit better use in pvp) is all the evidence one will ever need of this.

For years they said "npcs need better AI", CCP delivers "better AI". Result, "WAHHH mah drones, I can't just launch drones and forget about them anymore, CCP PUT IT BACK LIKE IT WAS WAHHHHHHHH".

For years they said "we need something to spice up game play". CCP delivers hacking mini game. Result "WAHHH, now I have to click stuff, WAHHHHH". don't get me wrong, I don't like the hacking mini game but then I wasn't complaining about exploration in the 1st place.

For years they wanted "a way to interact with planets". CCP adds PI. Result: "Wahhh, clickfest, Wahhhhh, POCO taxes" lol.

Wasting time trying to please "carebears" with new content is about as smart as trying to get pre-teen girls to all agree on which One Direction member they want to marry.



So pvp stuff gets added and changed every 6 months like clockwork and you comment like that for (excluding NPC AI changes) when PVE has not been changed in over 7 years. Most if not all PVE missions predate Tier 3 battleships like the Rokh and Abaddon. These missions are an insult to the whole player base, me, you everyone.

It's a **** poor rewarding frig vs frig artificial difficulty mock pvp mission. Because if CCP wanted to they could make a faction frig like that would be a hard match for a marauder level tank.

The problem is CCP aren't happy with their changes, because they worked on this put in hours and hours of work for something that has the presentation of a completely recycled mission and elements. I've seen better new missions in X: Rebirth. The dev videos have crumbled to a halt, last one looks like it was made in 45 mins. Big changes and risk taking have almost all but vanished. Like the WH changes, pointless.

Now with AT starting, all the time and effort go into "watching" people play the game you pay to play not actually playing it...? Explain that one to me. Why would anyone want to see 10 dudes do a clusterfu--? Remember the butterfly effect trailer? That's what got me playing, where's my AT 500 vs 500 battles with capitals?


you must not read the patch notes very often if you think there hasnt been any new missions.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#56 - 2014-08-29 06:13:11 UTC
Ken 1138 wrote:
That's what got me playing, where's my AT 500 vs 500 battles with capitals?

So you want a 10% tidi blobfest in nullsec?

Interesting...

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#57 - 2014-08-29 06:14:18 UTC
I must say, the expectation that this would buff your mission running isk per hour is quite interesting.

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Samuel Wess
Doomheim
#58 - 2014-08-29 06:46:41 UTC
We also did a couple excited for the new content than the general idea was DECLINE from now on :)) At least could have made burner mission unlock good missions, like do the burner, get an item use the item with the agent to unlock WC or whatever lv 4 mission.

Walk into the club like "What up? I got a big cockpit!"
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#59 - 2014-08-29 06:49:49 UTC
An excuse to use frigates again is always a good thing.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Solecist Project
#60 - 2014-08-29 06:56:55 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
I must say, the expectation that this would buff your mission running isk per hour is quite interesting.

These bitches never care about actually playing the game,
all they see is themselves.

Themselves.


Them - ******* - selves!


That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia