Wormholes

Pretty sure he is saying you are in a null sec corp and do null sec stuff and trying to contribute to an aspect of the game you don't even participate in.

right haven't posted in here in a while, but since i'm ill and in a bit of a mood I thought what better time than now to post.

So first this is going to effect ******* everyone. Second one of the key features I feel the devs are missing is that doing nothing is a choice.

ooh it will make it risker for people they have to roll if they want to farm so thats content.

Wrong. If its a big group on the other side they will exercise there choice to do nothing and just log. This happens already, we connect to a farming group who is likely to run sites, we wait they log on scan, see a wh jump in, ooh its noho. No pve today log off guys. If it happens now it will sure as hell happen after.

If your a big group who likes to rage roll it propably wont affect you as much except for a few things.

Its going to take longer, you can mitigate this a bit with a nano carrier but this still has issues. What if you like to roll the static of your static so you can fight other people. We often roll for a c6 -c5 so we can roll the c5 to fight different people for this you need a combat carrier so rolling that will take even longer.

Now on to "it will take longer" This change is ment to make it riskier. But you know what. for farming it will be safer. Yeah god damn safer, for escalation you only have so many sites so you are only in space for so long and at risk for so long. With it taking longer to roll you have less chances of catching people doing sites.

Ohh you can roll with bs's etc yeah ok. so lets look at this.The max distance for bs is 8.8km so while alot quicker than a carrier will still be longer than what it is now. You will also need twice the amount of people to do this so will be harder for the smaller groups. And last but not least with out a god damn ******* orca you risk needing to use a closing hic which will add even more ******* time on to rolling. So keep that in mind before saying ooh bs is quicker. If you want to do it with a orca then your only slightly faster than using a cap. and you have the down side of needing twice the people.

Your moving from a area of known stuff to luck. While i know some people want there to be more unknown stuff (which I don't mind) moving to any luck based system is terrible.Having ships spawn in random directions is bad. will my ships bein refit or wont they. Now if and i say you had control over this I wouldnt mind so much for example. If the direction you were in when jumping through the wormhole effected where you came out I wouldnt mined. Along with the speed you were doing (maybe have it based on a % of your max speed) affected how far from the wormhole you appeared. This woudl be fine it would give you options and choices to use to tactical advantage. As it is its random bs luck.

If it affects the bigger groups you can bet your arse its going to affect the smaller groups way more, and you'd be right. rolling c2 to c4 will be even more of a pain. you could do it a bit safer with battleships and not orcas but its still going to add alot more time on to you. smaller groups also don't have the luxury of having a nice big support fleet, to protect them.

You combine this with the fact that income in the lower class wh's isn't that good and you can make more in hisec doing incursions.

TLDR Its still a pants on head idea and terrible.

I know a fair few groups who have moved out or moving and I'll be straight up and honest this change worries the **** out of me.

1 day left until this amazingly positive change.

The only thing that could be better is Sleepers finally waging war on all the POS's and PI farms in their space, and slowly wiping them all out.

Largely it was attempts to draw parallels to what kind of change in null would be an approximate of this change and the reaction suggesting that kind of change would have from people who were connected to nullsec rather than an attack on nullsec.

i understand the changes just fine, thanks -- eve is not particularly complicated

adding the minimum distance that you spawn when jumping through a wormhole makes it so you can't immediately bounce back through the wormhole

it also puts you at significant risk of being out of range of refit, which will make Rooks and Kings video style capital fights more difficult

note that this does not affect remote repair range; a triage archon has a range of 52.5km with its remote armor reps, which is well within the worst-case scenario of your capitals spawning the maximum distance apart

this has the knock on effect of making rage rolling, the current way by which wormhole groups find both PvE and PvP content, take longer

feel free to fill in any details that you are strenuously claiming I'm missing; without specific details you are just fronting for a nuance that does not exist

remember -- you're not trying to convince me, you're trying to convince CCP

CCP needs these details, should they exist, way more than I do

your repeated, coruscating failure to provide said details means they might as well not exist

Do you just have a personal hatred for wormhole people or something? So your idea of a good change is to make finding content in a game take longer and more frustrating?

it's to give it the potential for being interdicted