Player Features and Ideas Discussion

i also think the Abbadon needs some work..
- increase damage bonus too 10% and remove a turret .. space for a Nos or a repper would be nice
- reduce sig radius a little
- increase mass, while buffing speed and agility - the new amarr theme that seemed too stop after one patch weirdly
- improve cap regen

Im ok with ac optimal, and prefrencing fall-off. Since blasters are more about optimal generally. Id just like to see ac falloff buffed. Especially on the vaga. Minmatar hacs struggle to get past 500dps. Even when you do make it past that, youre only applying a portion in your desired engagement range. Do i want 500 dps at 25km, no. But it would be nice to be in the low 400's. Especially when i fit specifically for range.

With 220s and x2 TE and x2 gyro on my vaga, it does the 300-350 dps at 20km, including drones. Take 80 dps from drones away and youre at 270-220dps. Kinda pathetic really. Its worse than eagle dps. And thats with sacrificing TWO lows for better range.

The reason i bring it up is the vaga lacks the dps at the range it operates at to break tanks of active rep ships. Even some t1 ships. Its great for killing tackle, but is lacking with cruisers.

In terms of the t2 resists, have you seen the Sac? Amarr t2 resists, and a resist bonus. Gets well over what any minmatar hac gets. Also, due to minny t2 slot layout, its hard to fit an invuln. Most of the time, i fly minny HACs with a dcu or nothing and rely on native resist. 75/60/40/50 is not a hard resist profile to counter. Yea its good against lasers, but laser boats arent everywhere.

No, a/c's project through fall-off. Have almost 0 optimal, so dps is applied almost always in fall-off. Yet i have a hull with a fall-off bonus, and 2 TE to gain more range, and yet, the applied dps is still far lower than other hacs in their intended engagement range. Learn to read the whole post.

Not to mention, based on your KB, you don't fly minmatar, and are just used to blaster boats, some very badly fit blaster boats i might add (nice eagle).

"i'm going to tell you how wrong you are about a weapon system i never use" Troll much?

Remember the vaga is obscenely quick - you cant give kiters too much DPS.

OMG it must be hell being so stupid!

A short range gun on a kiting ship!!!

So make the Vaga a brawler, dps bonuses galore vs the falloff bonus. 5 slot mids, slower.

Make the Muninn kiter, optimal and falloff bonuses. 4 slot mids, give it some DPS ffs and vaga fast.

And dear god, resolve the minmatar DUMB_meta. Armour and shield ships, dedicated shield only logi, categories with only one type of ship, categoreis with mixed types and upside down bonuses. Command bonuses for shields ... a ship that can fit artillery with NO rigs or fitting mods, give me one?

If its a shield race, make the shield ships decent. Claymore and Sleip aside, the rest are terrible. Make the armour ships decent? Good DPS with better options than the worst armour tankers.

Then CCP rolls out crap like the Wolf and Muninn, speed demons in no WAY at all, gives us mid essential ewar and forces shield tanking on ships with it.

Tempest slot redo will not cut it

7 guns so it can benefit from dual dmg bonus in actual dps number or add application bonus and buff rof.

If you want to keep tier 1 tempest as garbage with sub battle cruiser dps and agility than please for a love of all that is holy do fix tempest fleet issue so it is used over tier 1 phoon or maelstrom, it is a bloody shame where it sit currently.

...................and the next update is rapidaly approaching yet we are still playing "Ishtars Online".

Can we get any infomation on what you think the Ishtar tweak has done to hte game? Personally, I feel like nothing has changed. We still field Ishtar fleets and they're still superior by a not just a margin but an entire page. I still use the Ishtar solo because it's still superb and a better choice than any other HAC.

I would like to fly different ships in the game but until medium sentry drones are introduced and the Ishtar gets it's bonuses limited to those I think everyone will just keep flying it. Cause, you know, if you're not flying an Ishtar; you're doing it wrong.

Because caldari ships generally have bigger HP pools than gal or minmatar. Theyre normally used in fleets where logi is readily available. See HERO's moa/eagle doctrine, or older Rokh doctrines, before it was drones online. Amarr is pretty much the same, but armor and lasers.

I however would not be opposed to a minor speed buff for caldari.

The man is making a fair point.

Can I respectfully suggest the next go around is less "tweak" more "bludgeon" down to normality?

Tempest: 2 dps related bonuses, but terrible dps. Needs more dps or complete change to a bonus