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You're correct, badly worded/outdated source that didn't properly distinguish between improvements and upgrade levels. Again, it would have helped if a devblog had been dedicated to showing the maximum effects of the new system instead of some average calculation. Based on the eveinfo information the effectsize is indeed caped at 5%, changing the total math to come out at 23% advantage, which I consider still significant enough to justify testing its effect on its own without throwing additional new mechanisms into the system (especially since the new rapid release cycle seems suited to such an incremental rollout).

The job base cost is based on the value of the item produced, with jobcost = itemvalue* sqrt(fraction of global job hours) thing. This is modified by a crapload of things; stations in the system, quality of the stations, number of stations, FW status. Now, two factors are relevant:

Basecost: How will the basecost differ between highsec where everyone has access to all factories vs. nullsec where factory access can be controled?
This depends on how the distribution of working hours will stabilize. In the snapshot, the basecost in a "semi-active" highsec system was 5%, while the worst nullsec system started at 4%. Further statistical data is rare; however, I'd expect the average nullsec basecost to end up anywhere between 50% and 10% of the highsec basecost. Assume 50% and the math pans out friendlier than in my initial example, assume 10% and it ends up worse.

Modifiers: By how much can the base cost be reduced by multipliers, including the mentioned NPC tax?
Building in an amarr factory outpost brings the same jobcost reduction as building in the "best of the best" highsec system Nonni, (.5 times costmultiplier for the amarr outpost, .48 (nonni) + 1.1 (npc tax) = .52). The salespitch example ends up with a 0.825 multiplier (.75 system * 1.1 NPC tax).

Summing effects up
Summing nullsec effects and comparing to the "average example", nullsec pays between 30% and 6% of the highsec job costs. The highsec costs for the salespitch example ends up at 3.8% of the itemvalue (7.6mio for a 200mio abadon). For the sake of the argument I'll stick with that, though I'd expect that value to end up closer to 5% due to the resulting new metagame. Nullsec can save between 70% and 94% of that, resulting in a cost difference of 2.5%-3.5% of the itemvalue.

Approximate itemvalue = (1+profit%) * mat value and for items with a profitmargin of 20%-50% you end up with additional costs of 3-5% mat value. This cost difference scales with the profit margin of the items produced.

The most important thing in this new system is how the basecost distribution ends up; that on its own is something I'd see like to see in action without the various other changes thrown in. I really doubt anyone, including CCP knows how the meta will in up in that regard, so adding even more new stuff (e.g. Teams) on top of that seems unreasonably risky to me.

Let alone the problems caused by the added complexity of this 'update' the only other thing this will cause is more PvP wars.

Players will leave and stop paying money because CCP is killing the PvE side of things. Yes you will say this is PvE enhancement but it only benefits the PvP players. Everyone is so confused by the upcoming changes that while trying to work it out their POS will be destroyed before they have any chance of making ISK.

Yes but unless I missed the part where infinite pos's were going to be accommodated in a single system then the spots are going to be at a premium in a manufacturing system. I think the profit for the merc will come from the person who pays them to clear a spot rather than from the contents of the pos.

'manufacturing system'

You do know there are significant benefits to not clustering?

Push/pull is the paradigm. Reasons to come together (mostly teams). Reasons to stay apart.

You are also aware that people will not pull up stakes every month chasing lowest cost areas. They will simply quit.

BTW, I am on Sisi right now. Grabbed a Talos blueprint.
Found one system , a low sec system in fact, where the slot cost was 61 MILLION, for a single Talos build. Found another low sec system, where the cost to do the same thing was 51 THOUSAND, a difference of about 1100 times.

If this formula is anywhere close to what gets dumped on TQ in 11 days, industry, will be in utter chaos. And that is NOT a good thing, regardless of what the propagandists say. People will see these massive advantages and will be moving all over the place, for about 4-6 weeks. Then when they realize how futile it is to chase, since everyone else sees the same thing, and they can't stand getting ganked anymore since the griefers see the same hotspots, they will quit.

Oh, and BTW, I was in PVH8-0 yesterday for the mass test. The index there has already jumped hard. If it can move that fast in 24 hours, systems will be good for about a week, then too expensive. As I said, high sec industrialists will quickly get demotivated to chase and avoid ganks, and quit.

This entire concept for industry is incredibly stupid.

also have you perhaps considered, in between the voices in your head muttering about rmt cartels, that on sisi that installed jobs is wildly different from how it is on tranq (the only people doing it are doing it to test things and not very many of them usually) so your lunatic ramblings about how indexes perform on sisi is utterly unrelated to reality

1. Can we get survey results from the feedback for multiple POS strutures?
2. Substantial downside of weaponized industry. Are POS guns getting buffed soon?
3. You can feed me with bacon for my extra labs but a survey is better.

I read on other sources that a common issue is mainly null sec alliances post on forums on the feedback loop. Maybe we can break that barrier down with hard numbers by doing surveys on log in. Gives everyone a say and backs you guys up with cold hard numbers of 'this why we are releasing it like this', just saying.

Maybe I am off my rocker though it is Friday night.

I started seriously getting into industry about 4 years ago, did pretty well over the years.

Am giving up next month.

Chasing teams, unknown variable costs, POS wars, many months of grinding for standings wasted....AGAIN

It's a game. It's supposed to be FUN.

What's FUN about this industry revamp nightmare??? Seriously

Themepark carebears are crying. Good.